1dalm

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[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

"You do realise you’re interacting on a platform that would shut down if they had to do this because they can’t afford it."

Yes. And I also believe the fediverse community should take this problem more seriously than it currently does, and not just wait until the government forces them to take it seriously.

One big difference is that the fediverse generally isn't broadly working marketing itself to kids to bring them onto the network, as opposed to other networks that directly market themselves to kids to get the kids locked in at young ages.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 1 points 9 minutes ago (1 children)

"Main issue i personally see is that i cant trust big tech. Ever."

Me neither. And a big part of the reason why I personally didn't trust them is because they advertise all these "services" to parents and kids and then only provide any sort of child protections when governments force them too.

(You want me to really get heated, get me started on youth sports!)

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 1 points 18 minutes ago (2 children)

I'm open to better alternative ideas, but I really haven't heard any.

But yes. Every single platform that offers the opportunity for kids to interact other users, especially strangers, should have some kind of protections. I think the platforms themselves should be held accountable for what happens on their platforms. Just like the courts have held that the Boy Scouts and the Catholic Church are responsible for protecting kids they serve. Discord doesn't get a pass.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 0 points 30 minutes ago

It's the victim's fault!

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 3 points 32 minutes ago

Sorry, I thought that question would be functionally rhetorical in this group.

Smartphones. The answer is smartphones.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

Well, sorry Johnson, you didn't get a vote on that one.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 0 points 50 minutes ago

Some of them, yes.

You see, one thing that child predators really really hate is policies. They want their interactions to be frictionless, so that at the first sign of trouble they can get out. Strong policies really are a strong deterrent.

It won't make the evil people stop doing the evil things, but it'll cause a lot of them to move to someone else's platform that has weaker policies.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 5 points 58 minutes ago (3 children)

What happened around 2010 that made driving so much more dangerous?

 

I know this topic, as well as most online topics, is more about emotions than facts. But here we are. You probably don’t understand how Discord's new policy is intended to help protect children because you aren’t trained to think like a child predator. (That’s fine.) I’ve had to take a lot of child safety trainings over the years for professional reasons. Here’s how online child predators work.

They start by finding a kid with a secret. Just like a lion will generally choose to attack the weak gazelle, child predators go after vulnerable kids.

They find the kids with a secret and say “hey want to see some porn?”, and of course the kid is curious. They didn't start with anything bad. This is a process for them. But they will tell the kid, “be sure you don’t tell your parents about this. This is our secret." Then they slowly try to pull into deeper and deeper secrets and start to blackmail the kid. They start to demand that the kid send them nude photos. They trap the kids into deeper and deeper secrets and guilt to get more and more out of them. In the worst cases this results in meetups with the predator in person.

The easiest places for the predators to start this process is porn sites where the kids are visiting in secret to begin with. Especially those on Discord where the messaging between users is the main feature. Those are the kids that are most vulnerable.

How how is Discord's policy supposed to protect kids? The goal is to keep the vulnerable kids out of spaces where they would be targeted to begin with.

So there you go. I’m all ears for how to do this better. That's one beef I have with the EFF right now. They offer no alternative solutions to this. They just didn't want any kind of protections at all.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world -3 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

I'm only going to explain this once because this topic, as well as most online topics, is more about emotions than facts. But here we are.

You didn't understand how this helps because you aren't trained to think like a child predator. (That's fine.) I've had to take a lot of child safety trainings over the years for professional reasons. Here's how online child predators work, they start by trying to get the kid into a secret. They say "hey want to see some porn?", and of course the kid is curious. And the kid is told, "be sure you don't tell your parents about this." Then they slowly try to pull into deeper and deeper secrets and start to black mail the kid. They start to demand that the kid send them nude photos. They trap the kids into deeper and deeper secrets and guilt to get more and more out of them. In the worst cases this results in meetups with the predator in person.

The easiest places for the predators to start this process is porn sites where the kids are visiting in secret to begin with. Those are the kids that are most vulnerable.

How how did this protect kids? The goal is to keep the kids out of spaces where they would be targeted to begin with.

So there you go. I'm all ears for how to do this better.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You can't disregard depreciation. That's real cost, and regardless how well you take care of your car is not literally going to run forever.

But regardless, you are forgetting to consider maintenance and a lot of other things. And if you are in one accident, especially one where you are at fault, you will find that your cost will rise considerably.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 4 points 2 hours ago (5 children)

$1000 a month for a car is a pretty low estimate for most people. And even if we accept that estimate, it's $1000 per month, per car. Most suburban families are going to need more than one.

 

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