GarbageShootAlt

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[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago

It was from some time ago and a major factor in a show of his getting canceled and his waned star in the current day. Here you can see what he had to say about it at the time:

https://m.facebook.com/nt/screen/?params=%7B%22note_id%22%3A10158921227506613%7D&path=%2Fnotes%2Fnote%2F

I'm not really sure if that's a tracking link or where the tracking part is (though I'd guess starting from the &), I just got it from Reddit. He's not on the magnitude of like a Weinstein or Cosby or whatever, though one of the allegations (which we don't really have evidence for or against) is pretty grave, otherwise he's generally just creepy.

Even without this part I still don't think Hasan/NDT is a good analogy because, again, Tyson is famously an insufferably obtuse asshole in the vein of reddit scientism and basically doing CinemaSins for anything he can possibly think to.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I think Tyson is not a fair comparison with Hasan because Tyson is a sex pest along with being an endlessly irritating reddit-style dipshit. I'm sure there's some astrophysics stuff that he's good at, but there's just so much downside with him all around.

If you want to hear people endlessly complain about Hasan, I'm sure you can find a good coterie over on Hexbear to satisfy that, but while I sometimes disagree with Hasan -- very vociferously on some issues, in fact -- I think it's very difficult to argue that his overall output is negative when he spends so much of it on doing things like advocating against Israel and its lapdogs (which he had been doing for his whole career and not just when it became fashionable recently), along with explaining to hogs about how they are hurting themselves with false consciousness without getting too "le drumpf" about it. He does sometimes punch left, but generally he has a very deliberate policy of avoiding attacking, for example, actually revolutionary socialists despite himself advocating for a demsoc platform, which I think is a self-conscious attempt to mitigate the harm done by the way he moderates his position.

I agree that people are too fixated on talking about BE's rancid twitter bullshit when his main channel broadly has very good videos and even his secondary channel is -- while kind of dominated by drama slop -- also a decent resource on things like counters to various zionist talking points, particularly their revisionist history. Not to sound like the other top comment, which I don't really respect, but I think it is just a fact that the reason the emphasis gets slanted is because the people he disparages for his dumb chauvinist reasons on twitter have a huge demographic overlap with the online left (myself included in some cases), so people are going to take personal offense at him going out of his way for whatever brainrotted reason he thinks he has to attack them or, at the very least, people close to them. It's a very normal reaction and part of the reason that his chauvinist axe-grinding is rhetorically a terrible strategy if he's anything other than a shitty tailist trying to get approval from ACP types (which I don't think he is, I think he's just such an asshole that it undermines him having a coherent strategy).

Edit: I see your comparison was actually more direct than I thought. Over on HB people mostly complain about BE for the reason explained above. I haven't seen many people support his really antisocial bullshit but I can see here that it's something people do. I don't really have an answer for you on what you actually meant except that a lot of people on the left is genuinely deeply misanthropic and they find various ways to dress up their misanthropy as righteous. You can see how people who generally were either rejected by society or oppressed by a dominant segment of it would become excessively resentful, so again I don't think it's really all that interesting a phenomenon. It's just a version of "when education is not liberatory, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor." They are hurt and currently can't see the inadequacy in a pseudo-politics of just venting their spleen at the ingroup that made them an outgroup, even if most of the people they hate and profess to want to see the suffering of never did shit to them and are unlikely to ever do so in the future.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Sorry, I never use this account. I don't really know about the reception of his death at the time, I was speaking in the present tense for a reason. Perhaps no official investigation by the state was conducted, but people have looked into the circumstances since and it being an accident is today certainly one of the most prominent theories outside of the pop culture "bury your gays" story, which may well have spawned from an incorrect ruling made at the time but generally is not well-regarded now because, as you note, it's ridiculous and there's just not much evidence for it.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Sorry, I never use this account, but the other commenter explained it fine. According to the accidental poisoning theory, the apple was not injected with cyanide, but rather he or the apple was accidentally exposed to it as a byproduct of his chemistry research.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I think the official story is not that he committed suicide but that he accidentally poisoned himself in the course of research, and the suicide story has just sort of been perpetuated in pop culture as a "tragic gays" narrative to make his death romantic (in the broader sense of the word).

I've never seen reason to believe he was murdered, though I'm not saying you're wrong.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Whoever it is decided to ask the question in the negative which already makes it seem like a push poll.

Survey questions should be reversible anyway

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Do you know any liberal refutations of what you call myths about the PCP in this thread like there were of "Private Life of Chairman Mao"?

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Our Gonzalite friend is wrong about an number of things, but there is real criticism to be made about Deng radically increasing poverty by undercutting the systems installed under Mao that brought poverty to low levels. The "Chinese miracle" was in many respects solving problems that it itself caused and is a sort of liberal historical revisionism, though of course the more contemporary extreme poverty eradication initiative made real headway that was not made under Mao.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nothing you said is more unserious than

The PCP is the most advanced political party of our time

So you're probably good

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I was late in checking up on things but I appreciate what you shared

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I think some of it is liberal propaganda and Deng's reform was mainly useful for survival in capitalist encirclement, as it produced a massive degree of impoverishment for the common people early on.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

You're failing to understand that the interest of "tankies" is in democracy being enforced by a proletarian control of the state. The copypastas you were getting were poor communication but they had a point.

The fact that you're comfortably arguing in parallel with blatant neoliberals should give you pause, or are you going to tell me they are less of a concern because they are not "authoritarian," because when people are richer than God and control immense swaths of production and politicians themselves while skirting regulation to fuck over the workers their class made desperate by enclosing the commons, that is not "authoritarian"? This whole thing seems kind of bankrupt to me as far as political theory goes. The mechanisms of control are diffused by various means into the economy and divided among the public/private sector, but if the private sector owns the public sector (and it does) you've got a class of kings who only half-pretend they aren't (Zuck deliberately getting that Caesar haircut is a tell).

 

Hello! I would like to start off by apologizing because I know a thread like this gets posted every other day and it can border on (or actually be) concern-trolling, but I wanted to get a rough survey of opinions here on a topic.

Specifically, do you have any criticisms of China's contemporary culture? Its government? What are they?

I'm of the opinion that there are a lot of low-hanging fruit in this regard, like the patriarchal social order that [whatever one might say about its status in other nations] is certainly an ongoing problem for the matter of women's liberation. I also think it's both socially backwards and bad for national security to not have gay marriage, because we're all familiar with how the US loves infiltrating student movements.

I also rather regret how the CPC seems to be trending towards expanding the role of the profit motive rather than shrinking it. See these statements:

http://en.qstheory.cn/2023-05/04/c_882761.htm

http://en.qstheory.cn/2023-05/05/c_882998.htm

Do you agree with these points? Do you have your own criticisms? Am I totally off-base? Let me know!

(btw I'm also familiar with the idea of sharing criticism with comrades but finding public criticism to be counter-productive, but I don't want to spend all day listing caveats)

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