Tags eat into the 300 character limit. She had too much she wanted to say.
The Acceleration is already locked in, and denying it is Liberal Fantasy.
There would be little point of having any interest in politics if this was true. As long as there are still people there is the ability to make things better. All fascism needs to triumph is for everyone else to do nothing.
Incorrectly assuming there is nothing we can do lets the fascists win. There is no limit to how bad things get. The more elections people refuse to vote for neoliberals the worse things will get. And the longer the fascists are in power the harder it will be defeat them in elections.
Its a great way to get written of as a useless Liberal that can only be trusted to fill out a rigged ballot.
We should fill out ballots if we get them. The wider the margin of victory the harder it will be for the fascists to rig elections. And we should expect there will be ballots, because to do otherwise is to comply in advance.
But wallowing in “Kamala should be President” is how you get treated like a dirty lib.
Everyone should have voted for Harris in the last election. Arguments against this are accelerationist and must be refuted at every opportunity.
Come join us in reality.
We should vote for neoliberals when the choice is between neoliberals and fascists. Fascism harms us all and so we shouldn't be complicit in our destruction by allowing fascists to win.
The “Glorious Past” was fucking terrible too.
Giving up cultural capital to the fascists is a needless ceding of ground to fascists. We should celebrate what American has gotten right while still criticizing what American has gotten wrong.
The point of criticism is to improve a thing you love. Mamdani loves New York City. It's why he wants to improve it with socialist policies. He believes in the melting pot he knows NYC can be. And the people voting for him may or may not get his socialism but they definitely understand his passion for their shared home. People who don't love their country or least the good their country is capable of have nothing to contribute to a political movement whose goal is to improve their country.
If all you're arguing for is to burn everything to the ground then you're getting what you wanted. You're not going to want Mamdani or some other socialist to be president. They're going to put a stop to the acceleration and build America up. But the only way socialists candidates can even win an election is for people to fill out ballots.
The acceleration stops when we stop letting things get worse. Things only get better when we learn from our mistakes and use that knowledge to make things better. We have to educate people. Part of that means accepting not voting for Harris was a mistake in 2024. Which if you don't have a problem with then there's not much to discuss there. It was other people in the comment section who were still needing that pointed out.
We're more than likely going to end up in a similar scenario, with an incrementally better neoliberal, in 2028 if we even get an election. And that's if Gavin Newsom doesn't end up being the candidate. I'm starting to think he's going to go full "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" and just run on being more fascist than the Rebuplicans. Regardless, we need socialists and progressives to co-opt the Democrat party from the current establishment, neoliberal Democrats and then win every election we can. That becomes harder to do the longer we're stuck in a christo-fascist dictatorship. Not to mention the damage to the planet and vulnerable communities all over the world in the meantime.
We need to support candidates like Mamdani. And not allow fascists to win when the choice is between them and a neoliberal. That's how we reduce the most harm in the short run and set the stage to have a socialist political revolution in the long run.
This has gotten me thinking how problematic a Newsom v DeSantis race could be in 2028. =(
I'm arguing that accelerationism is a self-destructive ideology. Democrats are going to keep chasing the neocon conservatives who vote over the leftists who don't vote. The way we win is getting more candidates like Mamdani in positions of power, including the presidency. But we're still going to need to neoliberal candidates in order to have majorities in Congress and state legislatures. There aren't going to be enough socialist candidates in the short term. Hopefully there will be quite a few progressives though.
Did you see the way Walz alienated the indigenous voters? I’m deeply curious about what response you get from Palestinian-Americans grieving their families. To absolve Democrats of their inability to message coherently when we need it most? Is simply unacceptable.
Also, I'm not Tim Walz. But he was liked by indigenous voters.
Walz also had better takes on Gaza than Biden.
I don't control the Democratic party.
Your argument is inherently accelerationist. Everyone needs to know how self-destructive it is.
What is it now?
Read what I wrote. The US used to stand for freedom and justice for all and the US no longer does.
Apart from that, you are projecting a bit much here.
Your argument is beat for beat the same argument so it's not projection.
Don’t be like them and run around with that patriotism bullshit.
Your argument agrees with the fascists in that "America was never a democracy". The fascists just take it further and say we were always a white christian nation. Stop running around with the accelerationist bullshit.
Don’t pretend that your country was so great and free and fair and all. It never was.
It got better, because the people stood up took their rights against push back, against violence and murder.
So your argument concedes it is the same accelerationist argument. Your argument even clarifies it's wrong at the same time. Cool.
but stop twisting that into what you want to make other people believe is some core value of your country and the only real patriotic thing or some shit.
I am going to keep refuting accelerationist arguments. You can try to bullshit in your argument all you want.
Fascism will fail. Accelerationism will fail. People are going to keep telling the truth.
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No, now the US is a white nationalist, christo-fascist, techno-fedualist dictatorship. The US doesn't stand for anything. The US is now a tool for the wealthy to enrich themselves at our expense in a capacity we haven't seen since monopolies were busted.
This “freedom and justice for all” thing was always a myth.
This argument is ahistorical. The US extended rights to people of color and women.
the MAGA shitstains are the true American patriots
The fascists are still fascists. All they do is hate. They don't love this country. The nation state is only ever a vehicle to terrorize, subjugate, and kill people.
This "freedom and justice for all is a myth" argument is the same as every other "America was never a democracy" argument. This argument is made by people who do not value freedom and justice for all or democracy. America's failings are a justification to destroy the country that has personally wronged them. They feel they've been morally tainted by association with the US and their only recourse is to burn a country of 340 million people to the ground to somehow redeem themselves. Not even to make something better and in some cases instead the goal is to end up in a red fascist dictatorship.
Nothing is good enough for them, no amount of social progress matters. Like in this case where, as usual, the argument pretends social movements didn't happen. People make these arguments because they've personally been made to feel morally uncomfortable. So everyone can die as far as they care.
Don't let people get away with this. The fascists took our democracy and freedoms away. The people who pretend those weren't real don't want us to have them either.
This user's argument is more of the same accelerationism that was rampant before, during, and after the 2024 election. Accelerationism benefits the fascists and thus is not anti-fascism. Part of the way we fight back against fascists is telling the truth. edit: typo
Mamdani is a socialist like myself. He's using the Democrat party because it's the most useful tool available to him. But he's not a neoliberal Democrat.
I'm a registered independent. I'm not this neoliberal you've concocted to debate with. I know Mamdani's got a lock on the Mayoral race as the Democratic nominee. And I don't gatekeep who is in the Democratic Party.
Lol, your argument is to refuse to vote for anyone who isn't as far left as Mamdani. You're not arguing to think globally or act locally. You're larping on the internet.
What if I told you that any genuinely Left Irish Republicanism, even from the Irish Diaspora, requires calling for a Free Palestine? We have arrived at that same human collective conclusion while allowing for Pride in our own identity to participate in cementing that.
But you'll argue against voting for candidates who aren't fascists in future election. Even if that means the fascists will continue to genocide the people you pretend to care about. No thanks.
Howdy!