Stimulant medication isn't a cure, you don't have to take it every day, and it doesn't matter when you take it as long as its far enough away from when you sleep.
Nonstimulant medication is also not a cure. There is no cure for ADHD. It's like saying there's a cure for schizophrenia (not comparing the two as issues). Some things don't get cured, they just get the severity lessened.
The thing that needs to be cured is the dizzying array of forces aimed at crushing ADHD people to pieces, at least in the US (can’t speak for other places).
You ever look at the number of people in jail with ADHD? Society is trying to kill us off I don’t really think there is another sober read of the statistics.
In other words there is a cure for ADHD to a large extent but it doesn’t involve curing the person with ADHD.
It's tribalism. “If it looks like a person, but it behaves differently from me, then it's an outsider or a defect. Either way, it's bad for the tribe, so get rid of it.” Definitely one of humanity's darkest traits.
I think it goes beyond tribalism. It's about a baseline of normality society has come up with in recent times. People with ADHD and autism weren't treated as complete others before those diagnoses existed. They were considered eccentric, but not considered "different from the in-group."
I was medicated with an Adderall-like pills back in my college years and it was AWFUL. My peepee was flaccid for more than a year. Had to stop taking the medication for my well-being.
The limpness is one of the problems with those medications. First you lack libido. If you feel like rubbing one out, though, you won't be able to get it hard. And IF you manage to get hard, at least a bit hard, you won't be able to ejaculate.
It doesn't make sense to take a pill that neuters you, and then go and take another pill to counter the effect. It's like if you're obese and have high blood pressure, and instead of exercising you take pills against it - you're only fighting symptoms, not the root cause
Yeah…. But like, you get to choose to a degree what the root cause is, because there is always something more /root/.
Like all your health problems would be resolved by you not being alive anymore. Your DNA trying to be the basis of a living organisms just isn’t working out. Boom, solved. Oh, but you want to live… well I guess we could try a solution for a less root cause…
For me, adderall helps my adhd, but worsens my anxiety. I decided with my doc that I’d take anxiety meds with my adderall. But when we tried to add in a supplemental adhd med, Istarted getting recurring nightmares and having poor sleep. I could have taken a couple more pills to help w the nightmares and the general sleep… but that seemed like it was taking things too far, pills for pills for pills.
I will say, there are plenty of drugs and in plenty of dosages, you have to spend the time to find the right drug and amount, and timing.
And if you haven’t titrated before, you’dbe surprised how different a drug like Adderall can feel and work with as little as a 15% increase or decrease.
Dr Russell Barkley is incessant about taking the time to try different drugs and dosages to find what works best for you.
I found by accident (pharmacy randomly giving me slight variations in my prescription) that I’m much more receptive to Dextroamphetamine than amphetamine. Which is a thing for some people, but not one you’re likely really have a doctor help you identify.
Stimulant medication isn't a cure, you don't have to take it every day, and it doesn't matter when you take it as long as its far enough away from when you sleep.
Nonstimulant medication is also not a cure. There is no cure for ADHD. It's like saying there's a cure for schizophrenia (not comparing the two as issues). Some things don't get cured, they just get the severity lessened.
I don't think they implied it was a cure.
I know they didn't. I was adding on to what they said.
The thing that needs to be cured is the dizzying array of forces aimed at crushing ADHD people to pieces, at least in the US (can’t speak for other places).
You ever look at the number of people in jail with ADHD? Society is trying to kill us off I don’t really think there is another sober read of the statistics.
In other words there is a cure for ADHD to a large extent but it doesn’t involve curing the person with ADHD.
I agree 100%. People who are neurodivergent are demonized and treated very unfairly and it's disgusting.
@FlyingSquid @supersquirrel
It's tribalism. “If it looks like a person, but it behaves differently from me, then it's an outsider or a defect. Either way, it's bad for the tribe, so get rid of it.” Definitely one of humanity's darkest traits.
I think it goes beyond tribalism. It's about a baseline of normality society has come up with in recent times. People with ADHD and autism weren't treated as complete others before those diagnoses existed. They were considered eccentric, but not considered "different from the in-group."
As long as you don't expect to get laid anytime soon too.
I'm not sure why you got downvotes... You're correct. Some of the pills do absolutely affect arousal and libido.
I was medicated with an Adderall-like pills back in my college years and it was AWFUL. My peepee was flaccid for more than a year. Had to stop taking the medication for my well-being.
No shame it taking pills to make it hard again though.
The limpness is one of the problems with those medications. First you lack libido. If you feel like rubbing one out, though, you won't be able to get it hard. And IF you manage to get hard, at least a bit hard, you won't be able to ejaculate.
It doesn't make sense to take a pill that neuters you, and then go and take another pill to counter the effect. It's like if you're obese and have high blood pressure, and instead of exercising you take pills against it - you're only fighting symptoms, not the root cause
Yeah…. But like, you get to choose to a degree what the root cause is, because there is always something more /root/.
Like all your health problems would be resolved by you not being alive anymore. Your DNA trying to be the basis of a living organisms just isn’t working out. Boom, solved. Oh, but you want to live… well I guess we could try a solution for a less root cause…
For me, adderall helps my adhd, but worsens my anxiety. I decided with my doc that I’d take anxiety meds with my adderall. But when we tried to add in a supplemental adhd med, Istarted getting recurring nightmares and having poor sleep. I could have taken a couple more pills to help w the nightmares and the general sleep… but that seemed like it was taking things too far, pills for pills for pills.
I will say, there are plenty of drugs and in plenty of dosages, you have to spend the time to find the right drug and amount, and timing.
And if you haven’t titrated before, you’dbe surprised how different a drug like Adderall can feel and work with as little as a 15% increase or decrease.
Dr Russell Barkley is incessant about taking the time to try different drugs and dosages to find what works best for you.
I found by accident (pharmacy randomly giving me slight variations in my prescription) that I’m much more receptive to Dextroamphetamine than amphetamine. Which is a thing for some people, but not one you’re likely really have a doctor help you identify.
ADHD care is such a mess
Wth are you talking about. People dont take ritalin to kill gtheir libido. Thats a side effect.
more like cum anytime soon