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Israeli academics slammed for signing letter accusing Israel of ‘plausible genocide’
(www.timesofisrael.com)
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It’s one of the greatest ironies that the descendants of holocaust survivors are genocidaires.
Humanity always seems to learn the wrong lessons from historical events, doesn't it? Hurt people hurt people, I guess...
An eye for an eye.
It’s easier to hate than love and forgive.
As a descendant of Jewish victims and survivors of the Holocaust, aside from all the dead children and innocents in Gaza, this is the thing that bothers me most. I am not Israeli, but I am deeply ashamed of any Jew who thinks this genocide is okay or can be justified for any reason.
I've said this before on Lemmy but my honest opinion is many Jewish people have not healed from The Holocaust.
It's well proven that hurt people hurt people.
I humbly submit the nation of Israel is committing genocide because deep down they are still profoundly hurting from WW2 and rightly so.
I mean let's be real, the western world very much had a "fuck Jews" attitude up until and after the results of The Holocaust. Canada turned Jews away. America turned Jews away. UK turned Jews away.
They have every goddamn right to be angry.
Hurt people hurt people.
I am Jewish. I lost family in the Holocaust. I am not angry. The people who killed my family are dead. Taking vengeance on people who had nothing to do with it makes no sense. And even if somehow Israel was doing this in Germany right after the war, it still wouldn't make it right.
On top of this, there were survivors like Eva Kor who would have entirely condemned this, and rightfully so. Eva Kor forgave Hitler and the Nazis for what they did, which I think is far bigger and better vengeance than anything the people you are, let's not say defending... explaining? are trying to do.
In my opinion, there is no better revenge against people who tried to dehumanize you and your family than to be the bigger human.
The Torah may repeat Hammurabi's 'eye for an eye' concept, but let's leave those ancient concepts where they belong along with the superstitious beliefs that went with them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Mozes_Kor
It's actually not uncommon. Trauma and PTSD leave epigenetic changes in people. These can become hereditary through a combination of both nature and nurture. Unless treated, this leads to an intergenerational heightening of fight or flight responses and a host of other issues. This in turn predisposes people to do horrible things in the name of "survival" (in their minds), even when it's not actually necessary.
In short, traumatized families are predisposed to inflict trauma unless treated.
The truth is simpler than that. There were Nazi sympathizers among the ranks of Zionist activists for about as long as the Balfour declaration was in effect. Veterans of groups like Lehi are still enormously influential around the Israeli security complex.
2 things can be true at the same time.
So what I’m getting it’s a learned behavior from having lived through Nazism. The Cycle of Violence.
That's the end result of religious nationalism.
Zionists have always been right-wing shitbags.
Hopefully we can trot this out until the end of time whenever someone goes "my people would never". At least something good will have come from it.