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[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 223 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What the hell?!?!?! This is a server OS! It needs to be as light as possible and for the sake of server stability and security, admins carefully choose the installed apps. Microsoft can't just install new applications on a whim.

This is fuged up.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 159 points 8 months ago

People in this thread seem to be missing this point.

This is windows server, not windows 11. The consequences is not "I'll have an annoying taskbar icon on my home computer", this is enterprise level interference that could affect large systems and thousands of users.

Linux Mint isn't an alternative to windows server.

[-] optissima@lemmy.world 69 points 8 months ago

You're right ig, in that case grab Debian.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

I only SysAdmin on raspbian thank you very much.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 48 points 8 months ago

Yeah but Fedora and Debian sure as shit are.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

Yep. I no longer have to administer Windows servers (everything I do is serverless these days) but I did for many years.

Adding anything to a server without vetting it against policies is a huge no no. Back when I was doing it, a big part of our monthly update deployment was updating the test environment first so we knew we weren't about to break a bunch of shit for us and our customers. Not just "does this brick Windows server", but "do our applications still function" (usually yes, but the answer was no on several occasions over shit smaller than this).

I don't know what adding copilot does. Is it going to accidentally break some custom application by accident because it's tied directly into the system? Is it going to report shit that I've already opted out of due to our data policies and possibly fuck up our audit compliance because of government regulations (defense, medical, and energy sectors have huge responsibilities in that area, just don't ask how I know)? How does it interact with our in-house developed software?

Fuck, I dunno. That sounds like a nightmare for infrastructure and ops, several managers, government regulators, and a payday for legal.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

The thought of administering windows server is vomitous.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

How else would you manage microsoft AD?

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

There's alternatives out there, unless you have specific contract obligations.

[-] RippleEffect@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Maybe, but it's still widely used and someone has to do it.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago

For sure, if you need paid support (which if you aren't a tech giant, a fledgling startup, or a system with no need for uptime metrics, you probally do) the you have:

  • SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (aka SLES and only still Libre option in this category unfortunately)
  • Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)
  • Ubuntu are

if don't need paid support then Debian, OpenSuse, Rocky, or Fedora are all good picks.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago

You could install Rocky and be done

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 7 points 8 months ago

Freebsd letsgo

[-] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Almost any Unix can be an alternative for Windows Server. Never understood why it was used, other than tech illiteracy of lowly tech workers who only knew MS stack.

[-] herrvogel@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

The usual answer to that is "active directory". It's not uncommon to have one windows server alongside other Linux servers because of AD.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

In addition, with all Microsoft's faults they had a hell of a small business package for years. In a lot of small businesses, the current CIO came up during those times and dictates policy.

Plus there are a lot of VARs and MSPs who push MS due to favorable terms and kickbacks. Small and medium sized businesses who outsource IT go with whatever they're told because they don't have the expertise, time, or desire to explore alternatives.

Plus there's a load of self hosted software for certain industries that only works on Windows servers.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

Stop resisting!!

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 14 points 8 months ago

Oh they can, as we see

[-] skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

I am jack’s complete pikachu face

Why is anyone surprised by this??!

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 months ago

There is a truly baffling amount of people who imagine that Microsoft has suddenly turned into a good company.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

That’s all true for consumer OS as well

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