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There is only one conclusion possible: the war in Gaza is a war between two imperialist states.

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[–] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some highlights:

The fight of the oppressed or even the elimination of oppression of Palestinians, Blacks or women – if this would ever be possible under capitalism - does not abolish this very system. On the contrary, as is the case with the Palestinians, we can even expect that their “liberation” from the oppressing Israeli regime, if it ever succeeded at all, would most certainly lead to an oppressive regime like the other Islamic states in the region and thus not to the undermining of capitalism – not to mention its abolition.

the regime in Gaza has also several functions of a bourgeois state: it collects taxes and has an army, a juridical apparatus, detention facilities, intelligence and police personal, etc. It is the Hamas de-facto administration which exercises these state functions and has, since 2005, under the direction of a highly centralised command centre, been able to fire thousands rockets into Israeli territory. There is only one conclusion possible: the war in Gaza is a war between two imperialist states.

But the article is right when it says that the slogan “Palestine will be free, from the river to the sea” can only signify the ethnic cleansing of the Jewish population in the region between the Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea, “a Nakba in reverse”.

In this sense there is indeed no difference between the nationalism of Israel and the nationalism of Palestine: both ideologies are a cover for the drive to war and for the repression of the working class by the bourgeois state.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the imperialist state of gaza, which isn't even allowed control of its own imports, exports or borders. That imperialist state which exploits foreign nations such as, uh, .... Well no matter. I'm sure even if they are not imperialist in practice, they are imperialist at heart, or something.

[–] Galli@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if a Gaza ever got the chance it'd colonize you and everyone you cared about!