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This is not REAL capitalism!
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Meme still works if you substitute capitalism for communism
Going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing that's the original cartoon and this is a play on the irony of the post-modern revelation of many of capitalism's failures.
Not only that, this isn’t real X is just a bad road to go down in. You need to define what system you want and judge if you met the plan, not some ideal.
nah not really
except that it doesn't as anybody who's minimally literate would know
Your capacity to ignore the real world is the only thing that's brainless here.
Ah yes, the suffering of my (great)grandparents is surely imaginary.
No but it sure was based
Aww, I'm sorry your (great)grandparents had their serfs taken away and were forced to become productive members of society.
Dude, all you needed to be defined a "kulak" was to own your own homestead, they worked on their farms themselves. Serfdom had been over for more than a hundred years at that point.
Kulaks were literal exploiters. Maybe learn some history, you'll find out why the term means a fist.
Maybe you should do some reading too.
There were no serfs in the 20th century: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_serfdom_in_Livonia
And the people considered kulaks by Stalin were often the same peasants, who got pieces of land taken from the actual nobility in the interwar land reform: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Land_Reform_of_1920
Tell us, why were they called kulaks little buddy?
So owning marginally more than your neighbours. Wow, what a horrible crime.
You make it sound so wholesome using your sanitized history from natopedia, meanwhile here's the reality, your grand grandparents were exploiting scumbags
https://sci-hub.se/https://www.jstor.org/stable/149521
Ah yes, getting skinned alive so hard by women and children.
Getting skinned alive by the men who ran these scumbag exploiter families. I love how even when presented with actual research proving how full of shit you are, you keep digging. I guess runs in the family.
I really doubt that Moscow deported women and children out of either collective punishment or misidentification. It’s more reasonable that it was simply Soviet policy to keep families together as much as possible.
Of course, if Moscow did separate the relatives, then antisocialists would go from griping about ‘collective punishment’ to griping about ‘separating loved ones’ instead. In any case, antisocialists rarely attempt to understand their opponents’ motives, especially in detail. All that you need to know is that the Soviets committed atrocities against innocents and that’s it. They did it just ’cause.
Also a very good point.
Showing a paragraph with a nasty description does not really prove anything, I could find you endless paragraphs that say nasty things about communists.
Here's some other research:
Available here, page 126
Do you fathom, how little land 5ha actually is for farming? Especially considering, that even the Western Soviet Union is generally not densely populated.
Do you even know how people farmed during that time? 😂 A 5ha operation needed dozens of people, they farmed by hand and horse.
5ha is 50,000 square meters. The average city block in the US is 2ha (200mx100m), to put into perspective.
Again, these were the people who exploited others in brutal conditions. Hence why they were called fists. The minimal size of the property these fucks had isn't really the counter point you seem to think it is. Keep digging buddy.
Notice the weight-bearing words "at first" in your own cited research? Etymology is not a valid argument when the definition of a term drastically changes, in this case becoming much broader. My point is, most "kulaks" deported by Stalin from the Baltics were new landowners with not a lot of land and at most a few paid workers. At least in the case of Latvia, these workers were commonly seasonal labourers from Poland (that came here willingly).
you keep on digging there buddy
And you keep on rehabilitating genocidal maniacs 👍
I'm not the one trying to rehabilitate the fucking kulaks here.
How?
You need more skulls for communism.
think of a number that u think communism killed between 1920 and 2020 just whatever u can imagine just add up all the made up numbers u have seen in all ur favorite propaganda and keep that number in mind and open the spoiler below.
spoiler
last year more than 20 million people died in capitalist countries from perfectly preventable causes such as starvation and disease and thats without even counting how many people were murdered by imperialist countries and their puppet around the world to maintain capitalism.idk what number u came up with but i grantee u it was less than 2 billion. and ur number is an exaggeration while mine in an under estimation.
The trick is that when people die under capitalism, the blame falls on a "corrupt" individual so the system is never accountable.
The issue is what is defined as capitalism and communism. If by capitalism you mean the most powerful countries with the best weapons and foreign policy that kills people, then I guess capitalism kills lots of people. The caveat is that if a communist governmnet ever got that same amount of power, they would kill even more people. The issue with communism is that you cant disagree with it, whereas you can be as communist as you want in a capitalist country, typically.
That's only an issue if you're illiterate. Capitalism is defined as a dictatorship of the capital owning class, and communism is defined as a dictatorship of the working class. It's not complicated. Meanwhile, disagreements that can't translate into tangible action are worthless. Capitalist countries regularly assassinate communists who actually gain political power. See Fred Hampton and MLK as primary examples of this.
2 billion? Or 20Million?
20 million times 100 years is 2000 million or 2 American billions
Hmm "last year" data might be very different over 100 years. It tends to increase towards later dates so its weird to assume its constant
true, i wast trying to say that capitalism killed that many people in that specific period of time just that over a period of a 100 years at the current rate of murder it would be way more than the ridiculous number of death attributed to communism during that time. but i totally see how it could be misunderstood
Capitalism kills more people each decade than even the wildest numbers capitalist chuds have ascribed to communism, and yet here you are. A stable genius.
Considering the brits alone managed to kill 100 million people in India alone over a span of 30 years, I think you are mistaken. Capitalism is a mass murder machine.