What linguistic constructions do you hate that no one else seems to mind? (lemmy.world)

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It bugs me when people say "the thing is is that" (if you listen for it, you'll start hearing it... or maybe that's something that people only do in my area.) ("What the thing is is that..." is fine. But "the thing is is that..." bugs me.)

Also, "just because doesn't mean ." That sentence structure invites one to take "just because " as a noun phrase which my brain really doesn't want to do. Just doesn't seem right. But that sentence structure is very common.

And I'm not saying there's anything objectively wrong with either of these. Language is weird and complex and beautiful. It's just fascinating that some commonly-used linguistic constructions just hit some people wrong sometimes.

Edit: I thought of another one. "As best as I can." "The best I can" is fine, "as well as I can" is good, and "as best I can" is even fine. But "as best as" hurts.

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[-] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

What really gets me agitated is when people don't use the helper verb "to be." Examples include, "The tea needs strained," or "The car needs washed." No, you miserable cunts. The tea needs TO BE strained. The car needs TO BE washed. Nothing presently needs the past tense of an action. I know there's parts of the US where this sentence construction is common but those entire regions can honestly fuck off. People say it's a dialect or something. I don't buy it. Not knowing basic rules of your native language isn't a dialect. It's just you being dumb. I hate it so much!

You know what else I hate? "It is what it is." Of course it is, you dense motherfucker! If it wasn't what it was, it would be something else, which would then be what it is! It's the most nonsensical phrase I've ever heard and it pretty much exists so you have something to say when you have nothing even remotely worth hearing to say.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"it is what it is" makes sense to me. Yes, it's tautological. But it's just emphasizing the point that whatever it is cannot be changed by the people ~~discussion~~ discussing it.

[-] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago

There's any number of better ways to make that point without sounding like a clown.

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Wait till you get to parts of northern England where they say "The car wants washing" 😂

[-] wjrii@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That's just it. Neither of the phrases is "wrong;" they are just a dialectical feature some people don't share. There's a systematic conjugation there, the lack of the helper verb is completely irrelevant if the person uses the construction consistently, and meaning is communicated successfully without it. The only reason to avoid it is as a social choice to avoid being judged by people who would call you a miserable cunt, or maybe to prove you completed a needlessly strict course of instruction in English grammar that proves you're not a miserable cunt.

[-] PatMustard@feddit.uk 2 points 7 months ago

"The car wants washing" is fine, thankfully I've never heard anyone north or south say "The car wants washed", which was OP's concern

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I know there’s parts of the US where this sentence construction is common but those entire regions can honestly fuck off.

Also bits of Nothern England. My Geordie friend uses that all the time. It feels really wrong.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

A former boss of mine was a frequent user of "it is what it is" and now I just associate it with shit decision making and people that manage to fail upward.

[-] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I've noticed something similar. It's always the worst people who use that phrase to paper over their shit ideas or decisions.

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