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What plot holes could be adequately explained away with a single shot or line of dialogue? (lemmy.world)

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"We've almost got some of their telecommunications cracked; the front end even runs on a laptop!" The Mac that sunk a thousand ships could have been merely clunky product placement, not a bafflingly stupid tech-on-film moment.

"Senator Amidala is in a coma. Even if she recovers, she will never be the same and may not live long." But no.... George had to have his god-damned funeral scene, even if it demanded Simone Biles levels of mental gymnastics to save Carrie Fisher's most emotionally resonant moment from ROTJ, as well as one of the more intriguing OT lore dumps.

Bonus points if a scene was scripted or filmed and got cut.

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[-] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago

“Eagles can’t fly us to Mt. Doom because of a magic curse or some shit”- Gandalf to the council in Lord of the Rings

[-] themusicman@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago

I think that one's pretty well explained (albeit not explicitly) by the presence of the Nazgul and the eye of Sauron, which were either destroyed or otherwise occupied when the eagles made their rescue. People pretend Mordor had no airborne defenses for the bit, but it doesn't really make sense

[-] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

Mordor probably had some javelins too.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

[+] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world -6 points 7 months ago

The Eye was proven to not be all-seeing or all-knowing. Same with the Ring Wraiths. And Orcs were shown numerous times to be inept guards.

So have an eagle fly Frodo to Mt. Doom on a night with a new moon, above the clouds. There is no way they would be spotted. A curse, while stupid, is the only explanation that really puts this plot hole to rest IMO.

[-] themusicman@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Doesn't have to be all seeing to spot a fucking eagle lol. This is akin to "Gandalf should've teleported the ring to Mordor, it never explicitly said he couldn't"

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 7 months ago

I mean... Why didn't he? 🤔

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I saw something maybe yesterday that was like, Samwise could carry frodo without being affected by the ring, so why didn't they just tape the ring to a small animal and put it in a bag, and carry the bag to Mordor?

I'll tell you that council didn't think very hard before concluding "one of us must physically carry it all the way there."

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

That only applies to the movie, and anyway it's easily explained by the The Ring not wanting to switch to Sam in that moment. In the book Sam totally puts on the ring to trick some orcs and it tries to tempt him with the power of gardening really well.

The Ring would reach out and influence people around the bag. The Ring would tempt whichever eagle carried Frodo. It had to be a being that had enough control to keep hold of The Ring but not enough ambition to be controlled by it. And even then IIRC it wasn't actually possible to destroy it willingly, Eru Ilúvatar stepped in and gave Gollum a tiny nudge off the cliff.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

That tactic might actually work on me. Imagine being that good at gardening, it would be amazing.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 21 points 7 months ago

The best explanation would be the actual one - they don't give a shit about Middle-Earth.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

This is exactly right. They were just busy with important eagle business.

[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In the books it's explained that the eagles were involved in a war of their own during the first two books and couldn't send help without risking their own destruction. There's actually a part in the books where frodo is like "why didn't the eagles just fly us" lol.

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