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[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 69 points 2 months ago

Only the people not on the ground and doing no work say shit like this. They don't understand how difficult it is to actually mount a military resistance, and how little room there is for being uncompromising.

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 55 points 2 months ago

liberals can only understand compromising with the people who want to kill you and all the most vulnerable people in society to only kill some of the vulnerable people, compromising by accepting weapons from the enemy of your enemies and using them to fight for liberation just doesn't make sense to them

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago

also known as cowardice

[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

yeah, baizuo dipshits always waxing poetic about moral high grounds in the realm of ideas

[-] CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

True.

Just wish some of the keyboard warriors on here would remember this wrt the YPG making compromises to fight ISIS.

[-] piccolo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

Do you have some pointers to some reading about this? All I know about the YPG is that Brace Belden joined their forces at some point and the US backed them which made a lot of leftists think they were CIA or something

[-] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

I seem to recall that the YPG/SDF even said that they felt the global left, and the western left in particular, failed them. And that failure of international support and solidarity is what forced them into a position of having to work with the US to fight ISIS.

So now they're in a situation where NATO is actively fucking them over. Turkey has parked itself on the border, and regularly lobs bombs at civilian targets, and the US looks the other way, while it swallows up Syrian oil. They don't want the US there, and openly state as much. But their presence is the only thing keeping Turkey, a fellow NATO power, from invading even more.

And what's the Western Left's response to this obvious imperial plunder? For people who do nothing but post on the bear website, to complain about a lack of ideological purity from a global south leftist movement that's been forced to choose between being plundered by the US, genocided by ISIS, or invaded and occupied by Turkey.

I've even seen people (more on Reddit then here, tbf) smugly saying that civilian deaths are ok, because "that's what they get for siding with the US", as though that justifies NATO war crimes, or that the people of the region even wanted that in the first place.

It's almost like the world is more complicated than a Marvel movie.

this post was submitted on 24 May 2024
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