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Biden Administration Tightens Mileage Standards to Buoy E.V.s | The new rule requires automakers to achieve an average of 65 miles per gallon across all models by 2031. (www.nytimes.com)

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The new standards require American automakers to increase fuel economy so that, across their product lines, their passenger vehicles would average 65 miles per gallon by 2031, up from 48.7 miles today. The average mileage for light trucks, including pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles, would have to reach 45 miles per gallon, up from 35.1 miles per gallon. Selling electric vehicles and hybrids would help bring up the average mileage per gallon across their product lines.

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[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They really aren't that much heavier. It is just one downfall that people try to play up because they want to spread anti human propaganda.

Most of the people buying giant ass vehicles don't need them at all. If we took 90% of the trucks off the road and replaced them with electric cars the average weight would go down. So it would be good for "guardrails" if we care about them. The pedestrians wouldn't get hit as high anymore as well making fatalities go down there as well.

Edit: quick search returned this "The study finds that a 4 inch-increase in vehicle front-end leads to a 22% increase in fatality risk for a pedestrian."

[-] ExFed@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Disclaimer: I am an EV owner.

EVs are quite a bit heavier when comparing within size class. From checking just a couple curb weights across similarly-sized vehicles, you can expect between 15% and 30% heavier.

But, to your point... if you instead compare between vehicles with a similar pricetag, EVs are about 15% lighter. When people go to budget a new vehicle, I expect many people are less willing to do the math to realize that trucks are extremely expensive to fuel and maintain, and so they're lured in by the "utility" they provide, when in reality it's substantially cheaper to rent one for the 10 days a year they need it.

With that said... you know what's even better for humans than EVs? Trains. Buses. Diverse transit infrastructure!

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

"quite a bit"

vs.

merely about 15% to 30% more.

emotive language is fun!

[-] ExFed@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Isn't all non-quantitative language just... A Series Of Poor Choices? 😉

Love the name, BTW

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ok then let’s make the point more concrete ….

the headline claims a 4t EV truck was too heavy for current guardrail standards. Ok, but the important part is the 4t, regardless whether it is EV
my EV is 2t. Sure, the battery added a lot of weight over what a similar ICE car would have, but it’s far less impact than the existence of so many giant trucks that are so much heavier. Current guardrail standards are plenty to stop my SUV, despite it being EV
current guardrail standards are enough to stop most EVs, except for a couple excessive models that are also excessive in size, poor efficiency, poor design. Even for a large EV pickup, most models weight well under 4t

[-] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

Yup. Most of the people complaining about EV weight didn't give a shit about ICE vehicles getting bigger and heavier for decades. They bought them by the parking lot.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I was complaining about it but I'm used to being a Cassandra now

[-] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

As a pedestrian that has been hit twice, I will confirm that getting hit by a GMC Yukon was a worse experience than getting hit by a Toyota Tercel.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah this is bad.

Will also share some data for folks from Ars.

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