1172
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2024
1172 points (99.3% liked)
politics
18114 readers
3532 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Bidens guys already came out saying they don't want to reform the Supreme Court. It's not on the ballot this cycle.
Yeah I just saw that. Ridiculous.
And in 2 years he'll probably "regret" not doing anything.
2 years he might come to regret that decision in January when Trump usess his new powers to lock his ass up.
If fucking Biden lose in November he better use that new gift to stop Trump. Dumbass really wants to use this to fundraiser on, Biden so out of fucking touch he got no clue that we are just this vote away from a Christofascist state.
He knows, but the thing is that the Democrats are about as afraid of fascism as you are gasoline in your car. They use the threat of fascism to help scare people to the polls and to donate money, which is partly why they never seem to be in a big hurry to squash it. Problem being, of course, that people eventually get fear fatigue and stop paying attention. Kinda like how in the wake of 9/11, the government would announce terror threat levels, and they were always orange or red, indicating super double plus serious danger, and eventually people stopped caring because life must go on. Well, people get fatigued of it and then the fascists win again, which provides another big, though temporary, shot of support to the democrats. Meanwhile, the democrats don't have to make any real, serious campaign or policy commitments besides "don't be fascist". Everything else they do (and don't get me wrong, they do some good stuff sometimes) is just running up the score. So, for the centrist democrats that run the DNC and Biden campaign, this feels like a pretty good Wednesday for fundraising, even though we all see it as the literal end of the Republic. They've been walking on the ice so long, they're convinced that while it is thin, they couldn't possibly fall through.
Plenty of the sitting Dems in Congress are millionaires who think they will do well under fascism anyway.
The Dems LARP as an anti-GOP force while secretly being OK with the GOP policies. It's all theater for the plebs, to convince us the lesser evil is keeping a larger evil at bay. All lies.
That's why the Dems are so goddamn anemic. The Dems love the status quo too, they just want little tweaks here and there, nothing disruptive.
Gavin Newsom (D) is why California does not have single payer healthcare today.
I ALMOST want to vote Trump just to see SOMEONE (like Biden) FINALLY receive Consequences for their Actions! ALMOST.
You want to make Trump the first king of the United States to punish Biden for... what, exactly? Failing to stop Trump?
What the fuck kind of logic is that?
Id follow that logic right up until the part where rich people get consequences. No one is more prepared for either outcome of the election then they are. Democrat fundraising was all time high under Trump, Biden may see his personal fundraising go up and his stocks grow if he loses. No one is less invested in the real consequences of their own actions then politicians.
Shut your bigmachole.
In 2 years he'll be in a Federal prison (if not executed). Trump has basically promised it.
Refusing to stop Trump is literally suicidal on Biden's part.
Not just suicide at this point. We're looking at massacres. If Trump takes power by any means, political prisoners are guaranteed. It's the only way they stay powerful. And political prisoners have a very short lifespan.
Once political prisoners are taken, it's all downhill from there.
2 years he might be dead.
That's why I didn't say 4 years lol
Link pls? I missed it.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/biden-supreme-court-reform-trump-immunity-1235051044/
Thanks for the link. Here’s the least bad news from the article:
This is the same language they used in 2020 for all the progressive stuff. That he then did nothing substantive on.
And his die hard supporters on here wonder why people don't want to vote for Biden just because it keeps Trump out of office. Biden isn't fighting this fight. The democrats are asleep at the wheel, another 4 years of, "oh no, poor me, SCOTUS said we can't do this, we just have to executive order the most conservative policy in 60 years." Does not excite the people who are willing to go vote.
Yall gonna hate me, but it is on the presidential ballot, Jill Stein has come out supporting term limits and expanding the court after this fiasco.
Is she viable with our current first-past-the-post system? No? Then she's not a realistic choice. All she can do is pull votes from Democrats, handing the election to Trump.
viability is a myth invented by the media. hilary was viable. john kerry.
Did you read beyond that word? I'm not applying a political yardstick to her, I'm using the term in the sense that she literally cannot win.
Its a weird self fulfilling prophecy thing. Its entirely up to vote whether or not she wins, but people wont vote for her only because they dont think she'll win.
I won't vote for her because she's a traitor pushing Russian interests, just like trump.
anything besides her consistent calls for less US military interventions? The green party is a lot less military focused than republicans and democrats
That traitor pushes Putin's propaganda on Ukraine. That's enough for me to know she is pro-oligarchy and anti-democracy.
Unless that propaganda is something other than "the US should have less military presence in other countries", then this is just...the platform of an actually progressive party that has always called for being less of a militaristic nation. You'll see her calling for the US to stop aiding Israel in its genocide as well.
I feel like you still aren't getting it. It's not these reasons, it's because we have a 2-Party system. I don't like it, and we desperately need election reform, but until then, no one can win without being the Republican/Democrat Nominee. Bernie Sanders, Jon Stewart, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, not one of them could win as a 3rd-Party candidate...
these words are hollow in the face of actions actively perpetuating the 2 party system. Im looking enviously at Peter Magyar in Hungary forming a party in March and now being elected to EU parliament because people wanted an alternative after a corruption scandal. This shit aint enough for you?
Some real "Curious... You criticize society, yet you participate in it" vibes here. "Perpetuate" the 2-party system!? What are you actually talking about? People should not vote, or throw it away until they magically give us ranked choice voting?? Absolute nonsense.
If you want to walk the walk, start a grass roots effort to reform the system, and I'll support you. Until then, I'll assume you're just trying to get people to not use our only real power currently: voting.
Im talking about voting for ranked choice. Thats just it, we arent going to magically get it by doing nothing, it happens when we say so.
the ambiguity of this syntax is fun! the democrats are handing the election to trump, and jill stein is trying to pull votes from them!
You mean Russian Asset Jill Stein?
Is this that one photo again? Why yes it is. Surely you wouldn't vote for a candidate with photos of being friendly with Putin
It's more than the photo and you know it.
But it is the same old photo, i knew what it was gonna be before i even clicked it
Righto, I suppose you also support the annexation of Ukraine like your hero does? That makes you the enemy of democracy.
Ill wait here while you find her supporting that
How about you read the actual rather than just looking at the thumbnail.
Ive seen it before, the article is some nonsense about...her trying to win an election against Biden? Biden is shit and I agree with her criticisms. Then it's trying to say she never criticizes Trump when most of her criticisms of Biden are pejoratively comparing him to Trump. Trump being shit is a given.
Sure, but only if we had ranked choice voting.
no, she's going to be on the ballot whether we have ranked choice or no.
She supports that too
She’s got my vote!
A vote for that traitor is a vote for both Russian assets.
Oh, the audacity of that woman to go and get pictured with Putin like that, in public, at a larger conference, in the interest of actual diplomacy.
Surely this is on the same level of treachery as a closed door meeting with no American translator. Or the eternal fanning of war flames by neolibs in order to fund the military industrial complex.