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Sen. Mark Warner Forming a Group Of Democratic Senators To Call On Biden To Drop Out
(www.washingtonpost.com)
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Refusing to see Biden's flaws is incredibly delusional. I understand a bit, running a new candidate could help Trump win. However, running a candidate with dementia will definitely help Trump win. We deserve a candidate with basic debate skills.
There is a point of no return when public reception dictates further action and that preception will not reverse. I hate the idea, as I think history will look very kindly on Joe, and it's terrible what's happening. But, by my estimate we have reached that point.
I'm sorry, he's done some good, but he's also continued delivering weapons to Israel for their genocide in Gaza. If he's looked at especially fondly in the future it'll be through rose tinted glasses.
Still voting for him over Trump, but let's not be ridiculous.
Bawaaaaa..,he didn't do exactly what I want.
Did he not sell Netanyahu enough weapons for your liking?
If everyone did exactly what you want it would be perfect! Because, with all those years of foreign policy experience you know, right? First, learn some civics. CONGRESS allocates.
Why are you talking about me? I was asking why you were so upset that Biden didn't do exactly what you want. And about the only problem I can imagine you having with Biden is that he didn't sell enough weapons to Netanyahu for genocide for your liking. Is there some other thing that Biden could have done?
And somehow, Biden was able to CIRCUMVENT congress to SELL Netanyahu weapons for his genocide. Biden's hands are tied unless it's something he wants to do. Is that what they taught you in civics class? Because all that tells me is that the gym coach was teaching civics at your school.
Because you want something the majority of Congress doesn't want.
That is untrue. By law, which Congress passed, Biden could do exactly what he did. The President has a bunch of attorneys that make sure he follows the law. Did you hear Omar, for instance, complaining? No, you did not. He didn't circumnavigate anything.
You were complaining about how Biden didn't do everything you want. Now you're talking about Congress.
Biden was selling Netanyahu weapons before congress voted. But I guess if genocide isn't beyond the pale, there's no reason you would have qualms about lying to support it.
No, sure didn't
No, sure didn't. In some instances money had all ready been allocated from last year. In some instances, material was transfered following rules Congress gave the President.
What's this, then?
Were you instead mocking someone for being upset about genocide? Do you suppose that's a good look?
https://apnews.com/article/us-israel-gaza-arms-hamas-bypass-congress-1dc77f20aac4a797df6a2338b677da4f
Guess the AP are all a bunch of Russians out to get poor ol' Biden. Biden circumvented congress and since you support what he circumvented congress to do, you're lying about it.
My imitation of you.
As I've said, Biden can do that. CONGRESS gave him the ability to do it. You can't call it circumnavigation when I tell you beforehand that it's OK to go around me.
So you imitated me in response to another person being upset about genocide.
What possessed you to act like that?
I'll trust the AP over you.
The AP never claimed it was improper. You did.
I did nothing of the sort.
So Biden’s use of emergency arms shipments were proper. Very good.
That's not how I would describe circumventing congress to sell weapons for a genocide.
He didn't circumnavigate. He sent an emergency shipment which Congress allowed him to do.
Hmmm. Who do I consider more credible? Is it some guy on the internet who mocks people for being upset about genocide? Or is it the Associated Press?
The AP never said it was improper.
And neither did I. They did say he bypassed congress though. Which he did.
Perhaps you need to find the difference between bypassing and circumnavigation.
How finely can Rapidcreek split a hair in defense of genocide? I no longer fucking care.
I must confess English is my first language.
https://lemmy.world/comment/11023480
Isn't he already top 10? But his past administration, vs. him now... I dunno what to think. If he were elected, then his administration could continue, but that's a big "if" at this juncture.
He is top 10? It's such a low bar.
Yeah, and it’s “Hillary’s Turn” 🤮
Scuttling your own incumbent because of his flaws is peak delusion.
Go touch grass.
And running a candidate who can't debate and is only coherent between 10 and 4 is just good politics?