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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

How about the part where the beast blasphemes and promises peace?

[-] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Yeah yeah yeah he was 8/10 on the general prophecies before, but now you'd really have to be dumb enough to believe the Bible to not see it.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As an initially religious due to upbringing now agnostic "ah fuck."

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are lessons to be learned from the Bible. Religion is certainly about controlling the masses, sure, but control back then wasn't as self-destructive as it is today.

Some religions don't eat pork because pork used to make people sick. Not eating pork was pretty damn good advice at one point in time. The messages about usury are extremely relevant today, and always ignored.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 1 month ago

The prophecy coming true is proof of the Bible lol

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It was written about current (for John the Revalator) Roman politics in a code of number meanings and fantastical imagery to get it past the Romans monitoring John the Revalator's communication. The fact that it fits today's politics is more to do with politics being politics pretty generally.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

Is there any evidence for that? Or is it just a theory

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

John the Revalator was exiled to an island, but kept alive by guards, basically the island was his prison, he could write messages out, but they were read by the guards, if they didn't like it they'd presumably destroy the letter, he communicated through numbered codes and fantastic imagery about 'dreams' to disguise his communications, it all fits up very nicely with numerical codes he would have been familiar with, and applied to roman politics that concerned the Christians, it fits very well. This has been the historically accepted view of his works by historians, even Christian hustorians, I'm not going to get into anything beyond telling you it's widely accepted by professionals, if you want to explore the topic and see the data for yourself you'd need to seek that out on your own, and I'm not interested in convincing you of anything, believe whatever you want, this is only the current widely accepted historical explication, which does fit the data.

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