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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by sunglocto@lemmy.zip to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I guess this is a cautionary tale.

I was recently having issues with my Gmail account that's tied to my Epik ( a domain registrar ) account, so when I was supposed to renew my domain, I didn't receive any e-mails about it. When I decided to randomly check on my website, it seemed to be down. So I checked Epik and a domain that usually cost £15 a year to renew now cost £400 to renew as it was expired.

As a teenager who does not have £400 to spend on a domain, I decided to just wait until the domain fully expired and buy it for a cheaper price.

After some time, the domain fully expired and GoDaddy decided to buy it as soon as it did, and charged me £2,225 to renew the domain. I don't understand how a price that large is justified, considering that my website gets barely any visitors and I basically only use the domain for hosting stuff. No idea how hiking prices this much is legal

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[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 241 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sorry, but chalk this up to lesson learned. It's almost always been this way. Domain squatters will do this all the time. In fact, some domain registrars will use you searching their site for an 'available' domain, and if you don't buy it up right away -- will buy it and hike the price and sit on it for years in order to lock it down, knowing you wanted it.

btw, Namecheap says Sunglocto dot com is like $10 - so just register a .com. Not through that Epik piece of shit that you used before. Legit, use Namecheap; they've never done me wrong and have been my registrar for more than a decade now.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 102 points 5 months ago

Time to register that domain before OP gets it…

[-] mal3oon@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago
[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

I prefer to be called daddy. Godaddy

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 35 points 5 months ago

Have also had good experience using namecheap for years.

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago
[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

I mean, I use namecheap. I’m thinking about throwing one of my domains onto cloudfare just in case.

If you don’t like namecheap, some people have been suggesting porkbun or something.

[-] chip@feddit.rocks 4 points 5 months ago

Porkbun has been fair to me. Recommended.

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I had this happen with NameCheap. I’m not sure if they bought it or someone else, but it stayed registered with them. Whoever bought it has held it for a couple years, put up a fake website to look like they were using it, but took it down after a year when I didn’t bite on buying it. Current status shows it’s pending deletion finally for abuse or non-payment. I keep checking to see when I can nab it again.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

It happens with anyone. Bots track expirations and snatch them so that they can ransom them back to you for thousands - exactly as in OPs example.

AUTO RENEW. Auto-renew. Auto-renew is the way. The solution to this problem is Auto-renew.

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yes, I just didn’t realize that auto-renew doesn’t work with PayPal on NameCheap and had lazily set it up with PayPal when I got it because I didn’t want to go get my wallet. Lesson learned!

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 5 months ago

I think you can also register 10 years in advance, or maybe more depending on the registrar, which would cover all other potential snafus like expired card info.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Namecheap is alright, but Cloudflare only charges at cost with no markup.

[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Then they make you use them for DNS. May or may not be a big deal, but the reason it's at cost is to act as a loss leader to get you exposed to and buying their other products.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Their free services are extremely useful and you can't find that anywhere else. I've used them for years with hundreds of domains and never paid them a single dime.

[-] explore_broaden@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah this is why I don’t use cloudflare, I have my domains on porkbun.

[-] morriscox@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

So search for a lot of domains at random to cost them some money?

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Absolutely. But I think it might be more advanced than that. They might have some sort of analytics that measures how long people stay on the page, etc to inform their purchasing decisions.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago

Ah, so search a couple of domains and sit on their page for a while making random mouse movements and scrolls then? Got it.

[-] morriscox@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Bots would help but have their own problems.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 15 points 5 months ago

Namecheap has extra rules if you want to use an API (minimum money spent with them, minimum of domains managed with them etc.) — GoDaddy style.

Keep that in mind, if you need an API (for DDNS or for obtaining wildcard TLS certificates) you'll have to use a separate service for DNS.

[-] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 13 points 5 months ago

You really should have separate services for registration, DNS and hosting. That way you’re not held hostage by a single provider.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Why should I post someone else for DNS records if namecheap is handling it just fine for my use case?

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

DDNS with Namecheap is as simple as hitting a URL with a /GET request from the IP you want it to point to. No limitations. No special requirements.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I have a script running that uses the Namecheap API to automatically get wildcard certs from Let's Encrypt. I didn't pay a dime for this. Did something change?

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago

Maybe you meet the conditions for it? It hasn't been possible to access their API without meeting the conditions for at least a year now.

You don't pay directly for the API, the latest conditions AFAIR are 20+ domains and $50+ on account balance and $50+ spent in the last 2 years.

They also want you to whitelist the IPs that access the DNS which makes it unusable for DynDNS, but at least they have a separate URL for that.

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

+1 for namecheap. They've been reliable and fair to me for years.

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