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I don’t believe that he relinquished his campaign out of utter beneficence. I skimmed the transcript but never managed to find it, does he touch on what in particular compelled him to pass the torch?
It’s hard to believe that he’d just wake up one morning after six months of campaigning and say “yeah, it’s about time I hang up my suit.” Especially with only a few months remaining for Harris to campaign. There had to have been a coming to Jesus moment for the spontaneity of this about face.
He didn't. They are gaslighting you now trying to make it seem like this was the plan all along. People hate Trump and they unite behind that and end up voting blue no matter who. They'll end up in this mess time and time again though until people make Democrats change else stop voting for them. You don't help someone addicted to drugs by giving them money everytime they ask.
but not voting or voting red means actively Supporting fascism. on one side you had an old guy who was visibly getting older and on the other side you have a almost comically evil group of persons who want nothing more than to make life more miserable for all people on earth but themselves
the choice should be obvious
Ridiculous attempt at false equivalence
I'd honestly be interested to see a cohorent argument as to why the first two aren't true if not voting is. I can't think of one.
The last one I threw in there for fun.
Is this you 13 days ago?
So many people here who have spent months bitching about Biden being the candidate can't take five minutes to enjoy him stepping down from the election.
You got what you wanted.
And I support Harris?
"Not voting is voting for the other side" is completely ineffectual as a slogan, since the type of person likely to not vote is going to immediately file it away in their brain as the obvious hyperbole-bordering-on-lie it is.
What's your point?
I told you my point: take a minute and be happy you got what you wanted before moving on to being miserable about the next, related, thing.
But I'm not miserable about Harris? I just told you that.
Or are you trying to say that making any comments that don't end with a string of 🎉 emojis is off the table for the next 3 to 5 working days ?
I get that maybe you misinterpreted my comment as anti-harris, since I didn't bother to make my specific stance clear and kind of threw it out there, but I've now clarified.
Why are you doubling down now? Just to try and retroactively justify some unnecessary receipt pulling?
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
You're not, you're miserable about something else instead. Specifically, people suggesting that voter apathy helps Trump. Or at least you acted in a pretty miserable way.
Okay so the emoji thing. Not allowed to criticise anything? What a strange and unique lens to view the world through.
"Voter apathy helps Trump" has a lot of baked in context that makes it kind-of-true when "You not voting helps Trump" just objectively isn't.
I must say though, I wasn't miserable when i made that comment, and now that you have received the initial thing you were looking for (or confirmation that you had it all along), I expect to see nothing but positivity from you for the next week.
It's fun to expect things. And it's weird to expect someone to be positive about everything when they were just accusing you of only being miserable about the election.
But yes, I am very positive about the election right now.
I think both are incredibly weird but you do you, boo
I take it this means you've reconsidered your previous opinion that Biden is the only viable candidate for the democrats
That was never my opinion. My opinion was that Biden (and a lot of others) believed that, and almost no one ran against him. So if people wanted someone else to run instead of Biden, it was too late. And they didn't canvass for anyone else anyway, something they got mad about when I asked them who they canvassed for.
But I was wrong about it being too late because I honestly did not think Biden would do this.
Pointedly asking people who their preferred candidate is to Biden doesn't fit that narrative, though.
How does it not fit that narrative? If everyone canvassed for another candidate, there might have been a legitimate primary challenge. But almost all the people who complained about Biden didn't do that. So asking who their preferred candidate was and asking them why they didn't canvass for them seems apt to me.
Ignoring that asking about canvassing isn't all you did, expecting people to canvas to have an opinion on politics is so nonsensical it actually brings us full circle to the deliberately ridiculous original comment I left.
How is expecting people to canvas before having an opinion any better than expecting people to donate? It reeks of elitism.
What? Canvass before having an opinion? It had been three years into Biden's presidency when the election year started. People didn't have an opinion of whether or not he should run or who else should be president by then?
You're right, I don't expect them to canvass. They clearly are very politically unaware.
You're really doubling down at every opportunity?
How is expecting people to canvas before having an opinion more justifiable than expecting them to donate before having one?
Again- why did they not have an opinion after three years of Biden's presidency?
The point being that you went from not believing anybody else could do the job to believing in Harris because it turns out that if somebody isn't campaigning then they don't seem a viable candidate?
Never said no one else could do the job. Why are you lying?
I said no one did any major canvassing for anyone else. I said it to you again in this conversation. That's a simple fact. I'm sorry you don't like facts so much that you have to lie.
Also, candidates don't win primaries by magic. You have to get people to vote for them. That involves canvassing. Either you're incredibly ignorant about the electoral process or you're trolling. The lie makes me think the latter.
If you pointedly and repeatedly demand which alternate candidate somebody canvassed for, then one of three things is true:
Why bother pretending otherwise?
This is a lie, I ask. I do not demand. After two lies, and that is the second, I don't bother reading further. The rest of your comment was a waste of your time.
I'm trying to figure out if you've convinced yourself of this or if you're just trying to avoid appearing wrong on the internet. Utterly fascinating.
For reference, demand would very obviously be a synonym of ask in this case.
And now you're doubling down on your lie, so we're done here.