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i don't understand why people are still anti-abortion in general, but even for those who are completely against it, why not allow it in extreme cases like medical reasons, rape, and incest? surely your god wouldn't want a young girl raped by her father to give birth to her own child-sibling who's definitely going to be all kinds of genetically and mentally fucked up?
Honest answer? Yeah, many of them would. Because God doesn't make mistakes and it must therefore be God's plan.
Why is rape part of God's plan but abortion isn't? No clue, beats me.
It's all part of God's plan? It's either all or not all, so which is it?
Expecting critical thinking supported faith is a waste of time ;-)
Nah, only things I want and like is gods plan, the rest is of course the devils plan!
It's so simple, right?
Abortion is part of god's plan, he gives instructions for one way to cause a medical miscarriage in Numbers 5:11-31. They just ignore the parts of the book that don't agree with their fascism.
Because it’s always just been a lie designed to control, the entirety of their worldview is
Because they believe that women should be subordinate to men, and that their sexuality should be tightly controlled. For the same reason, they want to make it harder to get divorced.
It has never been about religion, that’s just a smokescreen. it’s just control over women.
The Lord works in mysterious ways. Or some other bullshit they tell themselves to justify the horrors of the world. The Lord is almighty. No, fuck you, the "lord" does not exist, you imbecile.
"Christians" didn't give two shits about abortion until integrating schools became a thing in the South. Then, suddenly, we care about the "unborn."
Just gonna leave this here:
"The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”
Because they believe that a fetus is a human being, and that killing a human is murder. I find it sad that so many people cannot understand that many Christians really believe that.
It's crazy how many of those same Christians are okay with killing a human if it's a stand-your-ground home break in, or if it's a thief, or if it's a black guy with a counterfeit dollar bill, or if it's the death penalty.
It's sad how people fall for their stupid double-speak but here we are.
Not defending them, but they would probably say it's about innocence. If it's a criminal they can convince themselves that they deserve it (and they're racists, so they'll just assume that any given black person is a criminal).
Yes some Christians are hypocritical. Yet some really do walk the walk. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a monster.
I have never met a Christian who wouldn't kill in self-defense.
I didn't call them monsters, I called them morons.
All Christians are irreedeemable fascist monsters.
Apparently it's when they are old enough to be in school shootings that they cease to be a precious important life to be protected at all cost.
"If you're preborn, you're fine. If you're preschool, you're fucked."
Christians believe that a zombie can come back to life too. Why would any of their fantasy beliefs matter in the slightest.
Sure, they "believe" it is murder up until they or their family would like to undergo one.
I have seen no evidence that they actually believe that, considering how this diverges from their beliefs about the sanctity of life in many other areas.
We understand that they believe it. We don't agree with it and resent being told we have to live under someone else's belief system.
Forcing others to live their lives according to your religion that they do not share is violence.
The rest of humanity does not want or need your beliefs forced on us, so kindly keep them to yourselves.
The post I was replying to literally started with the words "I don't understand".
it starts with that because i, as an individual, don't understand! i've lived my whole life surrounded by atheists, was born and raised as an atheist by other atheists, and i genuinely don't get how someone can think that their outdated organised religion should dictate modern life
Buuut they don't. When was the last time a so called Christian held a funeral for a miscarriage??
They do not believe what you said, not at all.
Their religious texts don't say it. They don't believe because they are not ready to throw their sisters and mothers in prison for abortions.
It is all a big fat lie perpetrated by politicians using religion for their personal gain. They have used effective propaganda to dup non-political people into voting for them.
There are some extremists that may believe this but they are not mainstream at all despite how badly they want to be. I would argue these people are not Christians at all.
Mental illness.