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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 219 points 1 month ago

Isn't claiming territory that doesn't belong to you as yours the definition of imperialism?

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 98 points 1 month ago

They get around this by using a version of Lenin's definition of imperialism. Lenin characterised imperialism as, in very simple terms, the way that powerful capitalist countries exploit poorer countries (or straight up colonies, especially considering the time in which Lenin was writing). Of course they use a version of this that specifically defines it as just literally anything the countries they don't like do, leading to ProleWiki insisting that Russia is not imperialist but Liechtenstein is

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

Similarly to how 'reactionary' just means 'bad' to these people. For the record a 'reactionary' is somebody who wants to restore a previous status quo. It's not inherently good or bad.

[-] frezik@midwest.social -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reactionary, in political science terms, is the opposite of radicals. Radicals are to the left and reactionaries are to the right. In practice, people on the internet tend to use radical for both, but I wish the distinction was made more clear.

[-] denshirenji@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You are correct. Radicals want things to change in an extreme way, and reactionaries are just that, reactionary to change. Not sure why you got downvoted for knowing what you are talking about.

Language does change, though, and often laymen use words differently than subject matter experts.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

While I usually try not to be prescriptive with language, it has a place. The distinction between radical and reactionary is a useful one.

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

No. Radical is simply somebody who wants to fundamentally change society. It's not the opposite of a reactionary, in fact, you can be radical and reactionary at the same time.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

we get around this by looking back and seeing all that territory was separated by the empire.

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