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Real examples here? (discuss.tchncs.de)

Friend who is not a software person sent me this tweet, which amused me as it did them. They asked if "runk" was real, which I assume not.

But what are some good examples of real ones like this? xz became famous for the hack of course, so i then read a bit about how important this compression algorithm is/was.

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[-] angelmountain@feddit.nl 53 points 3 months ago

Git, by Linus? Maybe even linux itself? Ok actually Linus might just be Steve Wozniak without an annoying Steve Jobs guy next to him, while actually being a lot bigger than Apple maybe?

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 30 points 3 months ago

It's really hard to imagine a world without Git. If it hadn't been invented I think it would have been necessary to create it it's one of those things that's hard to imagine and then impossible to work out how you can survive without it.

Yet the vast majority of the world probably don't even know what it is, and wouldn't even understand it if it was explained to them.

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Git is not the only version control software out there, and not the first one either.

Facebook for example is famous for not using git. Because their own modified copy of mercurial fits their needs better.

Microsoft didn't use git until relatively recently either. They had to make some big contributions to make it work for their system.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago

Man, I remember ancient gmod addons released using (iirc) turtle svn so they could auto update. Was a wild time.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

turtle svn

that's a name I've not heard in a long, long time.

[-] uin@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

That’s a name I’ve never heard before. I have heard of Tortoise SVN though.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Meh, I knew what wizardbeard meant.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago

Th devs at my current organization use turtle svn, but that seems to be more down to organizational politics combined with a misunderstanding that git is platform agnostic rather than anything based on merits

[-] refalo@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

their own modified copy of mercurial fits their needs better

The version I heard was that hg people were way nicer to them and very much willing to help compared to git.

I feel like Linus got a taste of his own medicine dealing with Gtk and Gnome people while developing Subsurface and that caused them to switch to Qt.

[-] mke@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

IIRC it's both, sort of. They've contributed a lot to mercurial and, yes, that's largely thanks to mercurial folks being more open and receptive to their desired changes compared to git. But they also have internal tools that build on top of mercurial, tools that you're very unlikely to see used outside facebook projects.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

That make sense mercurial is in python, building on top is easier than C that got is made from

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I remember those days. I used mercurial and svn. And file locking in other solutions.

I'm so happy with git.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

t’s really hard to imagine a world without Git

I've lived it.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

The first job I had out of college was doing development on the production server with this method of version control. I still have nightmares.

[-] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Lots of people still split latex documents into one section per file, because subversion used file locks and we only knew how one person could edit a file at a time.

[-] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 14 points 3 months ago

It's not like there was nothing at all in that space before git came along, e.g. we had svn before, and mercurial more or less in parallel.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

And it all happened because botbicket decided to become greedy, to which Linus responded with taking a month break from Linux to make his own basic versioning tool, and here we are.

Without bitbuckets decisions, wer all still be stuck with SVn shudder

[-] mke@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not necessarily! Maybe we would live in a world of mercurial, or even some other alternative.

And it wasn't bitbucket (botbicket?), but BitKeeper, which gave the Kernel folks a license to use BK, but with some restrictions. Among those was a "no reverse engineering" clause, which is what eventually lead to the revoking of that license—lots of interesting articles on this!—frustrating Linus for a few weeks, and finally the start of Git.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

You're completely right, I mixed up the name over the years. Either way, that action indeed led to git, which killed off bitkeeper

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Minor correction, it was Bitkeeper/BitMover - not Bitbucket. They were proprietary software linux used w/ a community license, and they later removed that free tier.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah, you're right! It's been a while.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Everybody would use Mercurial, since Fossil completely lost the race, and both Subversion and CVS are unfit for today's needs.

What is too bad, because Fossil would be much more productive than Git or Mercurial if the software just finished running at all; and Mercurial is way easier to learn than Git.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Really easy to imagine that world to most people. Like me. Who inspite of using computers since my 386sx family pc, never got into software engineering.

I understand a little about it, but its just a name of a thing i dont know how to use lol

I just find it funny how its a kind of ignorance(for entirely understandable reasons)is bliss situation to me, but a horror to those who use it

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

Git has tons of contributors though.

[-] mke@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, and Linus mostly handed off the project to Junio Hamano quite early on (same year, 2005). Seriously, huge kudos to Junio for all his work. Still, it's fun to say this quirky guy who likes penguins started not one, but two free software projects that took the world by storm. Humbling, even.

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