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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by MrMakabar@slrpnk.net to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

To be clear it is not hold in $, but in RMB, gold and rubel. Before the war in held $174billion, so a massive decrease.

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[-] doo@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 months ago

They also held 293.189 tonnes of unallocated gold, compared with 298.84 tonnes on August 1, 303.579 tonnes on July 1 and 329.795 tonnes on June 1.

So they sold almost 40 tonnes of gold in 4 months? I approve that trend.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Who's buying? Cause they are getting a hell of a deal.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Gold is very near its all-time high. It just set a new all-time high about a week ago

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Gold is very near its all-time high. It just set a new all-time high about a week ago

But for russia to sell to someone else that requires trade with a heavily sanctioned country. That's a quick way to get on the "naughty list" and have sanctions applied to yourself too.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Gold is nothing if not something that can be easily and efficiently smuggled. The gold can be simply re-cast into generic gold bars or minted into back-dated Russian bullion coins. Just one passenger car can smuggle millions of dollars of gold across the border while attracting little scrutiny. From then, it can simply be easily sold to bullion dealers. Then the cash can be ferried back across the border or deposited in accounts at Kremlin-friendly banks.

If you have a network of agents doing this, you could probably offload thousands of ounces worth millions of dollars a month.

There's also the simple option of sending it all to a shady Chinese commodities exchange.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean, that depends.

In nominal, dollar terms, yes.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart

But I'm not sure how meaningful that is. Like, is there real-world significance to having a high unit price in dollars?

Gold hit $2,741.03/oz in January 1980.

And it's at $2,503.38/oz in August 2024.

Those numbers are close in nominal terms.

But to equal that 1980 peak, which was in 1980 dollars, in real terms in 2024 dollars, gold would need to be at...

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

About $10,463.15/oz in 2024. And it's a pretty long way from that today.

In January 1934, it hit $834.02/oz.

To match that in real terms in 2024, it'd need to be at about $17,258.73/oz.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I don't want to embarrass you, but uncheck the "inflation-adjusted" box in your first graph and recalculate.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago
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