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[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

To "solve" gun violence, yea. But to significantly reduce it, we only need to make progress.

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

It was sort of meant to be rhetorical.

Even if I agreed with you, gun control has been proven to work across the world, while not a single country has yet to solve mental health in a meaningful way.

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not saying that it's not a part of what needs to happen. Well thought out, thorough gun control is something thats going to be a part of this.

But as shit as it may be to say, with current gun culture, the 2nd amendment, and the 4th amendment protection from unreasonable searches makes the sort of gun control adopted in other countries improbable here.

The suggested legislation that I hear typically revolves around storage, which leading up to a tragedy is unenforceable (4th amendment) and therefore can't prevent a mass shooting. The banning of firearms wholesale, which is unpopular in so large a part of the population it would be practically impossible. Restrictions based on features that are so ubiquitous it would be like banning smartphones; it's not that there aren't guns without them but it's most guns made within the last few decades.

My perspective is that gun control is the surface level way of dealing with a growing symptom in this country. One that taking away guns doesn't actually fix. It's the knee jerk reaction "quick fix." That doesn't really fix anything, just hides how deeply broken our society has gotten.

So personally, I'm not against gun control in principle. I'm against the "common sense" gun control proposals. Because many of them are formed with minimal understanding of firearms or from a narrow viewpoint on how people use guns.

(As an aside, I'm against the term "common sense" gun laws because it insults anyone that disagrees, puts them on the defensive, and makes having a good discourse on ways we can work together to solve the issue.)

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Or maybe theres nothing different between someone here and in a different country.

People get upset everywhere. Upset people do irrational things. When the possible things someone can do include shoot every nearby person with a rapid fire rifle, then those will happen more often.

Other countries stab or burn or poison, but far less people are killed or injured.

I'll put it like this, you will never make certain every single person at every moment of the day does not act out in anger. As long as people act out anger in violence, they will seak tools to aid that.

Hence, guns banned by default with exemptions for those that need it, rather than the other way around.

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