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I think that China could do absolutely untold damage to the American psyche and illusion of invulnerability if it simply instantly obliterated these clowns on Taiwan from hundreds of kilometers away with a cloud of drones dense enough to block out the sun. America treats the navy seals like they are all Master Chief, when in reality they are just guys who can carry a log and swim for a long time or some shit. Maybe that matters when you’re like… raiding a compound of a guy who has been on the run for decades while he’s asleep with Neon Genesis Evangelion playing on the TV, but genuinely what are these guys going to do to actually fight back against China? China will never even let them see a single PLA soldier lmao.

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[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago

I think that China could do absolutely untold damage to the American psyche and illusion of invulnerability if it simply instantly obliterated these clowns on Taiwan from hundreds of kilometers away with a cloud of drones dense enough to block out the sun.

IDK about this, I think this is quite unrealistic and almost mythical level thinking.

IMO drones work well in Ukraine because its a huge battlefield we haven't seen something like this since WW2. For some context the Ukraine war front is well over 1000km.

The current Korean DMZ is a "tiny" 250km. The Taiwan straight is also something like 300kmx180km or so.

This means that both sides have trouble providing consistent and effective air cover for their troops, despite the Russian natural advantage Ukrainian drones are still quite effective.

Turning to Taiwan this is the opposite, it would be a very concentrated battle and anti-drone systems should be more effective simply because its a smaller area.

China already achieved military superiority over the US and the conflict will be decided over naval superiority by destroying or even damaging the US carrier fleet. In fact I do like the theory sinking a US carrier would be far worse than 9/11 for the average population and internal US politics, although perhaps that would mean accepting a WW3.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

In fact I do like the theory sinking a US carrier would be far worse than 9/11 for the average population

sicko-flipped

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

The symbolic victory against Imperialist aggressors combined with the fact that the US might have spent the last 30 years laying off their shipbuilding capabilities and expertise is a day to look forward to.

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

You’re 100% right, but also I’m just being hyperbolic because it’s funny

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago

In fact I do like the theory sinking a US carrier would be far worse than 9/11 for the average population and internal US politics, although perhaps that would mean accepting a WW3.

Obligatory reminder that USA already took their obsolete but very prestigious ships and put it in obvious provocation situation to start a war. Twice.

IIRC, China has been doing a lot of stuff with low-flying drones over the water. Very hard to see on radar, reported as "UFO"s in the South China Sea.

A dense cloud of drones is silly though that's not the point of drones

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

On the other hand, cheap drones with explosives getting sucked into jet engines...

[-] aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 months ago

Turning to Taiwan this is the opposite, it would be a very concentrated battle and anti-drone systems should be more effective simply because its a smaller area.

China already achieved military superiority over the US and the conflict will be decided over naval superiority by destroying or even damaging the US carrier fleet. In fact I do like the theory sinking a US carrier would be far worse than 9/11 for the average population and internal US politics, although perhaps that would mean accepting a WW3.

I don't know how an attack on Taiwan by America would even work without dragging the whole region into the conflict. America's industrial "base" is several thousand miles away from the battlefield. They'd have to be operating from friendly neighboring countries to even have a chance of keeping up a fight, much less winning it.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Wonder what it'd mean for the US bases in SK/Japan. I feel like those are missile magnets in the event of a hot war.

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