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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago

I think a big chunk of it is; Normal people cannot cooperate with others.

Like, Vermintide, Darktide? Pretty niche games where cooperation is both necessary and enforced by special disabler and assassin enemies.

HD2, success also required cooperation, but it reached a massive audience and most of those people... just... don't... communicate. They don't ping, they don't use chat, they don't use voice. They don't even passively stick together. I worked out, it actually makes things exponentially worse when you have players that don't cooperate, because they trigger every patrol and spawn, they don't cover or protect each other, the players aren't making use of all their strats together. If you're all together you're rarely ever not going to have some gigantic bomb ready to go. BUt if it's four people running off alone they're gonna get overwhelmed even by minor threats. And since they don't know how to cooperate they don't know they have to cooperate, so when they get absolutely ruined by something that would be trivial for a squad working together they can only think that the game is being mean and punishing them.

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 3 hours ago

Mandatory cooperation games seem to have a sort of curse like that when they get popular enough. MOBAs with teams come to mind.

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

Getting DOTA flashbacks....

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 2 hours ago

It's sad and pathetic. How did we get to the point where people can't even stay together and point at interesting things? We talk about alienation so much but this is it; People cannot communicate or cooperate at the simplest, most basic level.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 hours ago

Vermintide 2 has so many communication hotkeys/shortcuts it baffles me people don't call out threats and whatnot more often. People with natural bond who don't pick up tomes when another person has health duping/sharing is one of my pet peeves. I shouldn't even have to ask.

Champion is secretly the hardest difficulty (more than legend or cataclysm) because that's where all the """"solo carry"""" players congregate.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago

I've played such bideo bames for decades, and I've seen so, so many "main characters" that couldn't even entertain the thought of cooperating with others, at best accepting having disposable sidekicks.

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