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Remarkable Gish Gallop here, a whole string of ahistorical nonsense. To cite one example, what's Israel's equivalent of the Marshall Plan, then?
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Giddyup! The way Israel treats Palestine is more akin to the way the League of Nations treated Germany under the Treaty of Versailles, and look how that turned out. But, okay, for the sake of argument, if Hamas surrendered unconditionally, what's Israel's Marshall Plan?
Gish gallop.
Bottom line: Israel is a genocidal regime. Women, children, aid workers, reporters, Israel kills them all. The regime needs stopping. Now.
Jesus Christ. The mental gymnastics.
To use your same level of reductive reasoning, it's a terrorism when Gazans fight in Israel, but a freedom when Israelis fight in Gaza. Why is that? 0_o
That's bullshit. When the cities were bombed they rallied behind Hitler. just like the British rallied behind Churchill, and the Vietnamese rallied behind Ho Chi Minh.
It's literally in the textbooks now that you cannot bomb an ideology. Has been since 1975.
This is not a serious comment, whether you meant it as one or not.
Great evidence for "go ahead and block this user" right here.
Prior to the war, the majority of Gazans did not support Hamas. Because they are extremists who are bad at governing and bad at being nice and sane neighbours.
This did not help them much once the war started. Now Hamas has widespread support, because they are extremists who are good at fighting off a foreign invader that is in the process of blowing them and their families up.
They exist, but they are not likely to be particularly vocal about it. Even if a Palestinian does not like Hamas and their actions, from their perspective, Hamas is still on the side of the Palestinians, fighting against an even worse aggressor - one that is in the midst of a geocidal campaign against their people. It's like expecting an Israeli citizen to stand up and condemn the IDF and Israeli apartheid while the Oct 7 attacks were ongoing. There are plenty in Israel who do so. But in the middle of a massacre is not a likely timing for it.
https://theconversation.com/hamas-was-unpopular-in-gaza-before-it-attacked-israel-surveys-showed-gazans-cared-more-about-fighting-poverty-than-armed-resistance-215640
Don’t try to rewrite history. They voted them in knowing full well it would be their last vote. And both regimes are engaged in attempts at genocide. One is just far better equipped to carry it out.
I'm not actually clear on what part of my comment you are having an issue with.
And Gazans voted them in hoping the platform of better internal security, less corruption, and less extremism that Hamas was running on would give them a better life. Exit polls corroborate this, with most voters saying they wanted peace with Israel and wanted Hamas to moderate its stance against Israel.
They could choose between the israeli PA or Palestinian Hamas. They chose right.