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I can't seem to shake imposter syndrome or doubts about whether I'm "trans" or whether I'm a woman, etc.

Just wondering what you all do when you feel that way, if you have any recommendations?

It makes me feel awful, there is so much commitment to a transition it feels like you have to be certain, but I just don't have constant certainty.

Sometimes I'll sit down and try to analyze it objectively, basically considering the "null hypothecis" - if I am not trans, then I would be cis, if I were cis then a certain set of things would be true (like, estrogen would probably not feel so great, testosterone would not make me depressed, etc.).

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[-] Pirky@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

I keep this in my phone for whenever those thoughts hit.

[-] match@pawb.social 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I gotta try doing this in a pub but making sure they know nobody else will find out

edit: also is that rozi rabbit the tiktok girl???

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago

right!?

I regularly wish to reproduce this - I'm sure there is a cis guy out there somewhere who would take a single estrogen pill, lol.

[-] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago

I suppose, but someone like that would either be the kind of guy who would take any random drug you offered him, or, probably a guy who knows that a single estrogen pill wouldn't do anything by itself anyway. But then what would be the point in him taking it except for a laugh to shock his friends etc? Either way they wouldn't be doing it for the intended effect.

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I do tend to think if someone is keen to take estrogen and likes the effects that's a strong sign they might be a woman. The tweet is implying men also wouldn't even consider taking the estrogen, as though to point out that cis men like being men, and that if you don't like being a man and would even consider taking the pill, it's a sign you are trans. That might also be generally true, but I think there is murkiness there.

[-] OldEggNewTricks@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

And an awful lot of eggs, I bet. "Well, if you insist"

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago

I love this tweet, but it doesn't seem to do much for dispelling doubts. Admittedly I tend to over-think everything, and I am interested in philosophy (especially epistemology), so maybe some of this is just my temperament intersecting in an unfortunate way with a difficult life choice.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

If you like epistemology, then I have some thoughts that might help.

At a neurological level, our brain seems to store information in terms of essence. To simplify and generalize the raw information our sensory organs capture, multiple stages of compression break it into something we can efficiently work with. For vision, your brain breaks info into elements like lines movement, color. From there, it tries to place the subject and the context, identifying what it sees and where it is separately.

The fun part of this system is that it does a lot of generation. The raw image you receive from your eyes looks like shit. It's mostly light and dark, with a small section of 8k full color and a blind spot right under it. We perceive reality like a movie by constantly moving that 8k part to get as much info as possible. Our brain fills in any missing details with what it thinks should be there.

We understand the world by simulating it in our minds. Like an AI generation model, it builds a version of reality using the interconnected schemas we piece together over our lifetime. Our memories and past experiences are saved as generative prompts of what happened, not what actually happened. Every single time you remember something, you're not accessing a detailed file, but generating it from scratch using key details and connections.

The end result of using fallible essences to build our reality is that we often struggle when they reveal their inaccuracy. When ideas are central to our being, understandings indispensable to our entire view of the world, we try everything possible to preserve it.

Realizing you are trans feels like a Matrix level reversal of reality because it truly is. There is no reality we exist in other than the one our mind builds. Having such a core paradigm overturned feels like the world was turned on its head and pulled inside out. It's hard to let go of that old reality emotionally, as without it you free fall through uncertainty.

It's hard, but rejecting solipsism will get you to the most likely epistemological truth: We will never escape this cave. We can never perceive anything but shadows of what's out there. Even our most well tested and fundamental theories of science rely on shadows that tell an incomplete story. If we found an understanding of everything, it would still be a shadow. The most generalizable shadow, but still only a representation of the true form.

.........

There's always a chance you're wrong about your identity, but with the abandonment of certainty comes the rejection of deduction. You can't prove that you have the "transfem essence" because no essence can be proven for reality.

Medical disorders? Tools fundamentally relative to place and time. Taxonomic definitions? Created for convenience. Quantum particles? They ain't truly particles, just quantized bits! We made it ALL the fuck up.

You probably can't find that certainty. It's most likely impossible. The best we can do is choose the most likely option and move on. You've started your transition. Being cis isn't the null; being trans is.

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago

Right, so two things:

  1. the lack of solidity or knowledge is a useful weapon for my fears, since I can't be sure about transitioning (of course this requires special pleading, but it's not hard to think transitioning is at least different than lots of other life choices)

  2. even if we ignore the fear and acknowledge there is no resolution to the epistemic issues (which, by the way, I think there is still room for discussion based on pragmatic arguments about evidence, even if the fundamental access to Truth is problematised), there is a practical question of how to best brainwash myself into accepting the illusion of being a woman.

It seems like the latter is a slow process, I feel much more intact womanhood now than a year ago - having breasts and soft skin helps, for example, because my brain is more likely to misinterpret my image as the image of a woman's (I find this especially true in low resolution reflections, like seeing my reflection at a distance on a microwave, or on my unlit phone, etc.).

One approach is to use surgery, hormones, etc. to make myself look as much like a woman so when I see myself I can see a woman, but I wonder what other strategies are helpful for that self-ing as a woman, i.e. to build up the illusion of being a woman.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Your use of words like "misinterpret" instead of "interpret" and "illusion" instead of "perception" makes me think your issue is normative rather than descriptive. It isn't about whether you are trans, but whether you should be trans. Getting from is to ought in this way exists in the realm of ethics, not epistemology.

It's important to understand how we can get from is to ought within the neurological view I talked about earlier. The first thing to understand is how and why our brain forms the connections that it does.

One important mechanism for our brains making connections is Hebbian learning: neurons that fire together wire together. If concepts occur in tandem with one another more frequently, like feminine and submissive, then they become implicitly associated with one another, allowing you to more easily bring up one idea when thinking about the other. This is how decades of popular culture depicting certain ethnic or racial groups as criminals can cause implicit bias to form without the person ever believing in it explicitly.

However, the brain can also modulate connection forming with far fewer similtaneous exposures. Think of frightening experiences causing a sudden phobia of whatever the person was experiencing at the time. If you get scared around a fluffy animal enough times, you might become scared of the animal without the scary thing itself. This is caused by "reward" or "reinforcement" mechanisms encouraging stronger associations to form in certain circumstances. The brain evolved to make connections form more strongly when the stimulus is more salient.

It may not be obvious, but this gives insight into how and why we want. We want because it helps us survive, from wanting to get away from that which is bad for survival and seeking that which is good for it. A lot of these wants like hunger or the desire to breathe are buried deep in our brains, as if we don't satisfy them, we die. You can't force yourself to suffocate by holding your breath, as you will fall unconscious and your brain will automatically start breathing. We want certain things and sometimes cannot change that. Even if we manage to hold off on eating till we die, we'll be hungry till the end.

You may be asking why I'm focusing on wants rather than trying to answer an ethical question, but I'm doing this because I realized ethics has always been about what we want. We bridge the is/ought canyon by wondering where else our sense of what "should be" can originate. We evolved to want survival, so we think we should survive. We want pleasure, so we think we ought to have it. We want companionship, money, life, liberty, and happiness. We need no better justification than wanting it finding a way to exist with other people and their wants.

.......

Finally circling back to your inability to fully accept that you ought to be a woman, you need to accept that your wanting it is enough. You clearly want to be a woman more than anything else, and other people being bigoted is all the stands against it on the side of other people's wants. You deserve the same thing you think we all do.

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Insightful, thank you for your responses.

My "doubt" then might be better understood as a form of cognitive dissonance, as I struggle to unify my desires - a part of me desires to remain closeted and not transition while another part desires to move forward with the transition.

Clearly at this point the part that wishes to transition has won out, and has been driving the ship. But this does not silence the part of me, which is deeply ingrained, that transition threatens my survival and well-being. The problem is that both are true, I have to reconcile and navigate being between a rock and a hard place.

Also, it's not merely the bigotry of others, but my own internalized disgust and bigotry I have to work through, but I think this is maybe less of an engine of my dissonance than my fears about safety and survival.

I only transitioned because I was in a uniquely dissociated place in my life, having survived a life-threatening situation that left my injured and partially disabled, and I was working a lot on my mental health. Being able to see the conditions that put me in a dangerous situation where I was injured helped me see the ways I was becoming a burden on others by not being well, so my wellness became a priority for the first time. I was finally able to prioritize eating healthy, exercising for my health, etc. in ways I just couldn't before, and a downstream consequence was that I was finally able to acknowledge I might need to transition for my wellness.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I also only transitioned because my back was against the wall. I was lucky to have the intensive mental healthcare needed to recover from such a place, but I couldn't have done it if I never came out. It did automatically fix some problems I could never deal with before, but more than anything, it made my problems solvable. The biggest thing transition gave me was the ability to love myself.

In my personal experience, the number one challenge with treatment resistant depression is self hatred. The shame of being worthless and despicable. If you view yourself as inherently bad rather than as a person who did a bad thing, it's much harder or even impossible to make progress. It becomes self fulfilling, with wins not sticking and losses piling up. That is often what holds people back from recovery; the enemy of living a good life.

The treatment is a arduous process of being greatful for everything good and not defining yourself as inherently bad. You can amend the wrongs rather than letting them define you. You are a good person deserving of love, so it'd be a shame to not love yourself. This is less about stroking your ego and more about cherishing yourself for all that you're worth.

Most people go through life without getting all the joy they can out of all the good. All things in life, from the good to the bad, are only here for a brief moment. Whether you're sad or happy, always remember: This too shall pass. The sun will fade and the final eclipse will shadow the earth, so make sure to not let self hatred of any kind destroy those moments.

You will need to fight off self hatred for the rest of your life. You can't put down your weapons or "fix" it once and for all. It will be tiring, but worth it.

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