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submitted 1 month ago by DdCno1@beehaw.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org

Quite a good list, although without any real surprises, except for the cheeky inclusion of a recent fan-made PC port. I'm glad Kerbal Space Program is on it, but a few other personal favorites (and candidates for best game of all time) are absent, like The Talos Principle, BeamNG.drive, NEO Scavenger, World of Goo, Mafia, Machinarium and Gothic II. Jets'n'Guns - a very early Indie masterpiece of a 2D space shooter - as well, but it's a bit too obscure for these kinds of lists. I'll stop here before I accidentally create my own top 100.

Are your favorite PC games well-represented by this list?

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[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 12 points 1 month ago

No Overwatch in the entire list? Final Fantasy 14 the only FF in the list? No Dota 2 or Leage of Legends? No Batman game?

I know its just opinions and fun, but I'm just very surprised, not angry or anything like that.

[-] Skelemental@mastodon.gamedev.place 16 points 1 month ago

@thingsiplay @DdCno1 this list is actually wild. Random flash in the pan games high up but also a bunch of evergreen classics and old games that were revolutionary but largely unplayed today while also missing some of the most popular games on PC. Not sure what this list is supposed to be except maybe engagement bait.

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 13 points 1 month ago

All lists like this are incredibly subjective and by definition about engagement. I wouldn't call it bait, but it was definitely created for engagement. That is not necessarily a bad thing since it can generate some fun discussions.

[-] 50MYT@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago

No Factorio either.

This article may as well have been written by AI.

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 13 points 1 month ago

I'm not AI and I really dislike Factorio. I would say it is a bit of a niche game, but Rimworld also seems niche. Probably just not to anyone at PC Gamer's taste.

[-] TehPers@beehaw.org 11 points 1 month ago

Factorio is not for everyone, but it's also one of the all stars of its genre. With the upcoming expansion in a couple weeks, it'll probably eat another few hundred of my free hours over the next few months, and I know I'm not alone on this one.

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 6 points 1 month ago

Oh, totally. But the folks making the list might not even have thought of it if none of them play it.

[-] 50MYT@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago
[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago

No, just saying it would not have made my top 100 list. Seemed like a funny thing to say it is an AI list because of not having Factorio

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Overwatch 2 update was pretty widely hated, so that might be clouding things. I supposed they did put Destiny 2 on there though. It is for sure weird to not see FFVII or an Arkham game. Or hell, Dishonored.

Edit: Whoops missed Dishonored 2.

[-] Ludz@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

True, OK everyone has its own preferences but indeed ff7 missing looks surprising, didn't see lot of city builders (not mentioning wolfenstein, fable, populous, Dk...)

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Regarding the FF games, I think it's actually fine considering some of the more notable omissions. Most FF games didn't get released anywhere near when they were relevant.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

Sure, but how do you explain then Persona 5 Royal then on place 5 then? Final Fantasy 7 Remake got higher ratings, I think sold more and was surely more popular on PC, right? Red Dead Redemption 2 was also released on PC when it anywhere near its initial relevance. Metal Gear Solid 3 or Mass Effect Legendary Edition is even worse, because those games are much much older.

Also Portal behind Slay the Spire? Team Fortress 2 34 places behind Hunt: Showdown 1896? So strange! These Valve games were revolutionary and defined their genre with huge number of players and fanbase.

My point is just, that the given argumentation here doesn't hold up to me. But that is what you get if you ask people for their opinion. It's just that and it will always surprise you.

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

The list is honestly bizarre and the rank placements are all over the place. Most of your later examples of that I completely agree with. I just think that the mainline FF games not being on the top 100 list of PC games is fairly understandable, and I say that as a huge fan of the series. Ironically, FF14 is quite literally the only game in the series that I haven't played.

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