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US Election Day November 2024 Containment Megathread (hexbear.net)

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put all of your election posting here so it doesn't bother anyone else!

For Agitprop purposes, I’m asking comrades to help aggregate any and all effortpost responses, critiques, or general thoughts that you have seen or written pertaining to yesterday’s U.S. election that you think have standalone value for discussion either online or IRL.

I made a post for that purpose here, and ideally it can be used not only for general discussion, but as a reference for well thought out responses in discussions about the election to save all of us some brainpower.

No shitposts please, as we’d like to highlight some comrades’ actual effort in constructing responses or analysis, but humor is 100% welcome to help make your point!

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 62 points 3 weeks ago

I see a lot of people here saying they dread getting blamed for Kamala losing, but isn't that the whole point? Isn't that what we wanna do anyway? Yeah, she lost our vote by supporting genocide and it sure looks like those votes would've come in handy. If the dems want to win elections they have to deal with the left as an organized voting block that's ready to call their bluff. If it's actually the left's fault she loses, that just means we're the ones they needed to listen to. Take it in stride.

If anything, the worst outcome here is that they conclude that moderate Republicans didn't vote for Kamala in enough numbers so the next time they should try going farther to the right. Many of y'all would actually rather see the blame get put on those people without seeing that the "blame" in this situation is actually a positive thing to get, because it gives you the stage to make demands if they want your vote next time around. Now's probably the time to preempt that and say that genocide is why she didn't get our votes and our votes could've swung it in her favor.

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

There's a particular kind of blame I dread - the kind coming from the average everyday Democrat whose political analysis absolutely refuses to go beyond "Third-party voters hate us for our freedoms." It's impossible to talk to those people and they've refused to listen or change or demand that the party change for 24 years now.

[-] theother2020@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

There’s also “third party voters (of the left variety) are immature babies who don’t understand how things work in the real world. They are why we have Trump. Well, let’s see how that works out for them.”

Insert meme of Democrats want me dead.

[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

The people saying that only have to think about what they're saying for half a second before they realize they still have to appeal to us to win elections.

[-] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

only have to think about what they're saying for half a second

You're asking a lot of them here tbh

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

What will happen is they'll ask why the democrats should cater to us if we wont vote for them anyway.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Then keep losing and figure out another strategy to lose even harder. shrug-outta-hecks same difference to us, we get to sharpen the contradictions.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Dems: "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH ACCELERATIONISTS!"

Tankies: We literally just asked you to stop killing people for, like, a month. And you wouldn't do that.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Seriously they wouldn't even headfake at peace

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

They could have just lied about it for like two weeks! That's all it would have taken! Bibi would shut up and deal with it just to get his bombs, they didn't even have to actually stop! They couldn't even fucking lie to cinch the election to get what they wanted.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

I see a lot of people here saying they dread getting blamed for Kamala losing, but isn't that the whole point?

Blamed as a political force to prove to the Democrats that they cannot hope to win elections while engaged in the worst crime? Good.

Blamed as Frank the communist who actually has to interact with people? It's gonna suck. : (

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

100%. There's also the matter of making elections matter in this increasingly fascist country, but knowing it might not may also be what will push people to join organizations or unions and try to effect change outside elections. We're going to have to fight. And I'll probably have to finish reading my Lenin lol.

[-] Prole_Strongman@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

My brother in Christ, the democrats will self-implode before they learn from their mistakes. Your optimism is incredible.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

gramsci-heh

If they don't learn from their mistakes, the political class will drift farther and farther from the wants of the masses. The contradictions are sharpened. Either way presents more opportunities for the left.