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these folks sure are quiet these days
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I think this is a pretty good take. Aligns fairly well with this podcast, which seems like the clearest view I've heard so far.
The Ezra Klein Show: The Book That Predicted the 2024 Election
https://nytimes.com/2024/11/09/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-patrick-ruffini.html