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[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I want to explicitly preface this comment to state that lib bio-essentialism isn't the solution. I just need some theory to know what is the answer.

That said, what kind of response do you expect ButtBidet to give? If ButtBidet says no, you effectively get:

#notallmen

https://www.zawn.net/blog/hello-youve-reached-the-not-all-men-hotline

If ButtBidet says yes, the justification that follows would be on the basis of the patriarchy existing and putting men in a privileged position... which seems to be wandering right back into lib bio-essentialism territory.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If ButtBidet says yes, the justification that follows would be on the basis of the patriarchy existing and putting men in a privileged position... which seems to be wandering right back into lib bio-essentialism territory.

What.

No, the patriarchy existing is not bio-essentialism! Neither is white supremacy existing race realism! What the fuck! These are social systems that justify themselves through such pseudoscience but in reality are 100% social and thus can be overthrown.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, the patriarchy existing is not bio-essentialism

I wasn't intending to claim that — the patriarchy can and should be overthrown. The patriarchy harms people of all genders.

I was thinking of a particular line of reasoning following from it to justify men deserving hate (for instance, "men deserve hate on account of being men, because they are in a system where they are privileged") might be though.

I guess you're right that a better line of reasoning could follow, e.g. men, exploiting this position of privilege and thus inflicting harm, deserve hate as a result.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

Really I was just trying to laconically poke at the notion that "men deserve hate" without having any specific answer in mind. I figured that if the question amounts to "Is your own statement true?", and the question could not be answered with either a simple yes or a simple no, that it would become apparent that something was wrong with the statement itself.