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Elon Musk has "taken over" MAGA, Democratic strategist suggests
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Don't worry everyone, i've worked for rich guys and I can assure you that two rich people are absolutely incapable of working together for more than a few months.
Trump and Musk are going to turn on one another, it's only a matter of time
Trump getting Musk deported would be insanely funny
hopefully they just bitch slap each other for four years and nothing of consequence actually gets implemented.
Nah, if Musk pisses off Trump he loses hard and fast. Trump could easily get away with making it an official act to strip Musk of all his wealth and instead of turning it over to the state, turn it over to the GOP. Use the guise that it is not communist because they are turning it over to a private company, not the government and it was all done for security reasons after Musk commited treason in dealings with Putin.
The GOP controls the house and Senate, so they wouldn't vote for impeachment, it checks the boxes for being pro capitalism, and anti Russia. And they make buckets off of him. The penalty they set for his Treason, execution. To show they are hard on crime and believe in the death penalty.
Doubt they would even need to fabricate any evidence, it is already there.
No expropriation necessary. All hes got to do is knock out Tesla's subsidies and SpaceX's government contracts...maybe have the DOT and FAA take a reeaaal close look at their safety records just to put the final nail in their coffins. Trump is petty though, my bingo card say he also threatens to strip him of his citizenship and have him deported before this is all over.
The day he deports musk will be the only day I ever wholeheartedly support something cheeto mussolini does.
I doubt he would actually be able to do it. Even if he had a solid case, Musk has the money to drag this through the courts until long after Trump is gone. However, Im pretty sure hell make a big show of the threat when they inevitably have their falling out.
If Trump wanted to deport Musk, he'd just do it. It's not like the courts have ever stopped Trump from doing whatever he wants.
What? No, they stopped him all the time. They never hold him accountable, but they stopped all sorts of crazy shit.
Trump makes it an "official act" to send the Army division of his choice to Musk's mansion, battering ram the door down, throw him in the back of the nearest C-17, and drop him naked at the gate of Camp Lemonnier.
Shove him out of the plane with a parachute over South Africa.
Or without one. SCOTUS already ruled that Trump just has to say “official act” and there is literally nothing he can be held accountable for.
Use the TikTok ban on Xitter. There's no judicial process or appeal, and the evidence is a state secret that they don't have to show anyone.(TikTok is contesting the law itself right now, if they lose then it's going to be very hard for social media to get out from under that law)
It would be the height of irony.
The ban is on foreign ownership of media being spread to our population. So long as the majority owner is Musk, it's legal unless he was deported.
Oh no. People massively misunderstand this point. It doesn't have to be a foreign owner. It has a catch all in the definition of "Controlled by a Foreign Adversary". (link)
And the evidence is classified. This is literally where they can point at someone and claim they are controlled by Putin or Xi and there's nothing you can do but try to get the law declared unconstitutional again.
Edit - because I realize the Congress page isn't updated for some reason, if you want to find the actual law as passed, it's Public Law 118-50. The section I reference is absolutely still in there. Even the wiki misses this crucial part of the definition.
So your thinking that his secret talks with Putin would be the information needed to list it as directed by a foreign person, could fit
My thinking is there is no actual event or relationship required.
IMHO this is just hopium.
There's no indication that they will not work together since they need each other for their own separate selfish reasons.
They will use each other as long as goals have not been met.
When those goals are met then they will have a falling out. And at that point it's too late for the rest of us.
Also both clearly report to Putin, so likely he told them to work together. And each of them is getting something out of it (for Musk, I assume nobody will look more deeply into his companies anymore, which are known to break all manner of regulations).
This is my dearest hope. Two narcissists fighting over the limelight.
Rich people have absolutely worked together in the past. Your theory only works until suddenly it doesn't and we have a big ass threat to deal with.
We already have a "big ass threat" it's the Christo-fascists on the supreme court, the wingnut lower court judges, and all the dark money being funneled to groups like Mom's for Liberty who're burning books.
Musk and Trump are just symptoms of this "big ass threat" and the DNC have been slow rolling their response because they're fat on the same dark money.
We're in an autocracy. And there's a lot of work to get out of it.
Yeah. Yeah, the rich people are already working together.
I'm saying "yes and... " here. The point of my argument is that merely being rich, regardless of political affiliation, is contributing to the autocracy. Even when they're at odds. They're still paying into a system that benefits them.
My point is they may have interpersonal issues but they all very much understand why they donate to the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society.
Yes, and their tax break from those donations defund federal aid that could be used for the general good.
Elon is MUCH MUCH richer than Trump. Any disagreements and Elon will just buy Trumps acceptance.
The hyaenas are airway at each others' throats. It'll at least provide some entertainment throughout this whole mess.