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Not too long ago a college kid sat next to me on the train. I didn’t mean to peek but I took a few glances eventually: he was doing some math 101 problem on his laptop.
Copied the homework problem and asked ChatGPT for the answers, then asked ChatGPT to generate the few simple lines of code to draw the plot for his homework.
Like, these kids can’t even be bothered to learn a few simple lines of code to draw a simple graph with a slope and an intercept.
It’s going to be interesting one day when suddenly there is a catastrophe that knocks out the power grid and half of the people suddenly don’t know what to do in their daily activities.
I genuinely believe you can make anyone who responds to this type of criticism with “OK boomer” look absolutely foolish. It’s a response that would track because the educational outlook is not looking great for today’s kids.
My grandma recently saw a doctor who was using ChatGPT/Google to answer her questions. She told them she didn’t feel comfortable with that because these are things that her previous doctor knew and the doctor responded with “Well times change.”
Another great reason to support China’s aUtHoRItARian regime
That's the sort of thing that should get a doctor investigated and maybe even fired. This is malpractice.
See that’s what I thought, but turns out it’s much more common than you think
Small town shit
Are you in the US? If so, I heard US healthcare is bad, but if so, it's even worse than I thought. Still fucked up wherever in the world it happens though.
Awful doesn’t even begin to describe it. The only hospital in town was recently bought out by a private equity company
My grandpa went to the emergency room around 10pm on a night last week and was told they had to wait because they didn't have a doctor in. This was after telling us he had liver failure and when we took him to a better hospital there were absolutely no signs of liver failure
what is china doing against AI?
I don't know about any AI regulations in particular but one thing is for sure, you have to actually know things to pass exams in China, and those exams start young. It is very competitive and you don't have access to Chat GPT during the exams.
that sounds fucking awful though
While I'm sure there is some improvement that can be made, it seems to be serving China and the Chinese people well. Everyone I know from China who is from my generation is infinitely more well adjusted than the majority of Westerners I know of any generation. They speak fondly of their childhoods too, most Americans I know can't say that, even without the more challenging education systems. Everyone I know in America has educational trauma and still doesn't know shit, at least in China they get some value for their alleged educational trauma.
so does getting shot in the middle of whitesville
How is that related?
it pertains to white people so in that spirit I saw fit to insert myself into any discussion humanly possible
I agree. But better than the sheer nepotism and money that guides US admissions.
I dont think making kids study so much they try to off themselves is a good idea
Is suicide amongst students less or more per capita in China versus the US? Are students who are killing themselves doing it because of the education system or because of relationships outside of school?
You are saying your statement as if 1) anyone here suggested that students should be studying to the point of killing themselves, 2) there is a serious amount of young people killing themselves in China specifically and directly because of the education system so please, come with some data about how China fares versus the rest of the world about education standards, the outcomes of students in general in China, China suicide rates and motivations versus other nations, or other relevant comparisons.
To be honest the position that China is killing their kids with tough education sounds like the type of orientalist click bait title we would see hexbes risers making fun of for being so obviously racist
Anecdotal but at my engineering university of about 4k students we got emails basically monthly about students doing this. And those were only sent if the parents were willing to share, the actual rate was much higher
Not necessarily anything when it comes to LLMs, but It’s the clear that China has instead embraced the physical-systems/robotics side of AI instead of the garbage plagiarism generators brought to us by Microsoft and OpenAI
Because they haven’t abandoned education like we have in America
You're boomering out. If the power grid is knocked out then the kid won't need to know how to draw a line programatically
You're reading obtusely. They might need to do simple algebra without the benefit of a computer.