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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Is it bots? Are those humans whos mission is to cause chaos? Is the weird behaviour caused by the creation of the concept of lemmy?

Somebody please explain to me wtf is going on.

They answer destructive comments, assuming shit, demanding shit. Are they trolls?

Are they being paid for causing chaos? It’s insane

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[-] fastfinge@rblind.com 59 points 2 weeks ago

All responsible server admins have them defederated. Hate speech and genocide denial, that is almost certainly against the law in Canada, Germany, and other places. We defederated lemmygrad for the same reason.

[-] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

I specifically chose my instance because it’s not blocked or being blocked by too many instances.

I’d rather judge myself what I want to be exposed to.

I guess server admins who haven’t defederated them are either with them ORRR they put more responsibility towards their users.

[-] fastfinge@rblind.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

Or they live in a country where genocide denial is legal. I live in Canada and my server is in Canada. I’m not willing to take the risk so my users can interact with assholes.

[-] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I thought the same thing, but got worn down by the constant negativity and rage.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

In your instance' case, db0 has said IIRC that the Anarchists on Hexbear, while not aligning 100% with them, are generally good and worth being federated with.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

I did the same, that's why I ended up in lemm.ee. but after being exposed to hexbear, and in lesser extend to ml, I ended up blocking both.

I haven't seen hex users in a while, not sure if lemm.ee defederated. If so I'm really grateful.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

There is an instance block feature you can use in the settings as a user, that seems to work pretty well for not seeing hexbear stuff

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

My instance is hosted in Germany and does not seem to defederate from hexbear, I'm subscribed to !history@hexbear.net from this account.

[-] urda@lebowski.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

I’m sorry to hear that, you should fix that.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't want it to. I think instance admins should be defederating from spambot farms, but not much more than that; if there's a chance some of its users want to read it, they should allow its users to.

That is, I want my instance admins to engage in moderation, but not censorship. I think defederating from extremist politics (whether far-left or far-right) is usually censorship, not moderation.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago

That's not what censorship means. As per defenderating from spambot farms... That's half of hexbear really

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

If that is so, I have yet to notice it in the wild.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

You're going to have to be a bit more specific. What's what needs clarification?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago

What do you mean "half of Hexbear is spambot farms?"

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

It seems pretty clear, I'm sorry I don't understand what needs further explaining.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't seem pretty clear at all, can you explain that?

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

If that's not clear already, I'm afraid I'm going to be incapable to dumb it down any further. Sorry!

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago

So you just make.claims and can't justify or prove them? Strange.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee -2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

I asked you clarification on an absurd claim, and you called me dumb and claimed I'm sealioning. Why make the claim in the first place?

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hexbear isn't driven by real people, it's a politically-motivated, organized effort to spread disinformation.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 weeks ago

So basically spambots are fine as long as they are spouting something political?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's the opposite of what they said.

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