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GoFundMe races to remove fundraising pages supporting Luigi Mangione
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Reddit just banned me for saying I support Luigi in his monster slaying quest and hope there’s more heroes out there.
Say, what’s the Lemmy policy on being real? I don’t really care. I’ll say it in person as well as any online platform, and if I’m banned from them all then I’ll just read books and shit.
Depends on the instance, I hear LemmyWorld doesn't really like it.
It depends on the instance. I just left Lemmy.World because of their euro- centric pro-censorship stance of educating people on the existence and explanation of jury nullification.
Attention all Luigi supporters!
Lemmy.world's policy is to remove comments and posts that advocate for violence. And imprisonment is a violent act. If you see a post on lemmy.world advocating for Luigi's imprisonment, report it and leave a comment explaining how it advocates for violence.
That’s what I’m on since I’m not really too well read on Lemmy yet and it was the most popular. Any suggestions for a good instance that can be readily joined where we have some semblance of freedom of speech? I mean, I’m far from a terribly hateful person but I’m not going to pretend I’m upset when a bad person dies, and I also like discussing internet piracy and such. I just wish for Reddit circa 2008. Heh.
I‘m a piracy fan and I‘m on dbzer0 instance as it‘s an offshoot of r/piracy. I barely post and lurk more, so I don‘t really know how they‘d moderate on the Luigi situation. The owner seems to be an anarchist and historically anarchist action wasn‘t all peaceful, most anarchists seem to support a "diversity of tactics" one of which is violence. Which makes sense to me, it’s like self defense cause what Americans are dealing with here is structural violence and what looks like zero hope for change.
Violence is very unfortunately the only way the world ever changes substantially. We deify our own nations’ founders as legendary revolutionaries when they used violence as their primary tool. We understand why the French had their revolution. We root for the anti-heroes in films. But then I’m supposed to be silent when I see somebody finally taking action in a meaningful way against some greedy sociopathic pig? I’m supposed to be okay with platforms silencing me and telling me I’m wrong for thinking this way after decades of being beaten down by these types?
Well, I’m not upset that CEO is dead. I like it. I hope somebody guns down another every week. Gives me a rock hard justice boner. And if speaking like this gets me banned from online social media then maybe it’s for the best. Spend way too much time on it anyways. Haha.
We very much support deny, delay depose policy
IMO -- you can't go wrong picking something obscure, or something you just llthink sounds cool, or anything for whatever reason. If it doesn't work out, switching isn't a big deal, unless you plan on cultivating a following. I'm ok with nuking my profiles and starting fresh. I chose my instance because I thought the name sounded cool. I haven't been disappointed. I still regularly hear from a bunch of instances .world, .ml, dbzero, or whatever.
Telling people that jury nullification exists isn't a problem, I've done that ad nauseam on .world. The problem is connecting it to calls for violence, as a way of encouraging people to cross that line.
That's some old bullshit
Pretty sure it's a by-server or by-community basis, but I've seen nothing but support for him on here
There are various actors trying to least descalate the support and others who painted him as murder esp starting today.
They are mirroring fake news arguments to split the support. Their play here depends on their ability to do so.
Fever has died down too.
He is already cooked from their perspective but I still don't buy he was in fact the guy who pulled the trigger
I've seen some people try to say he was a Far-Right loon who had a shrine to the messiah himself, Jordan Peterson.
I saw a laughably bad article on MSN that basically said "Won't someone think of the billionaires and ban video games before someone kills again? This guy played Among Us ya know!"
You guys use MSN?
Lol, I had a website I must use to do some adult bullshit today, and it would not work with my normal browser security policies. So I used a completely blank browser with no privacy settings just to do this one thing. I opened up a basic chrome window and was greeted with a bunch of ads. The one at the top was apparently trying to make Husk more relatable to the pheasants.
This is how I imagine most people engage with MSN style garbage.
That's how I use the toilet!
Is it? I am indeed happy that CEO died. He deserved it. Fuck him.
Is Lemmy basically just Reddit Junior then? No real improvements to freedom of speech? More moderators being over zealous and deleting posts and banning people left and right and controlling the narrative? I don’t really know what this place is all about I guess. I’m not like super hateful or anything but I’m not going to pretend I’m on the side of monsters who ruin the world for profit. I fit in beautifully on Reddit circa 2008.
Looks like TikTok is the only place you can actually be a real mother fucker and my country is shutting that down soon. What a bummer.
Lemmy is just the software that runs on various instances (servers) that all talk together.
I like to think Lemmy is the multiverse version of Reddit. Don't like your instance and admins? Join a new instance.
Thank you. I was told by another user to try an anarchist instance. It’s not like I’m some hate-monger or even at all abrasive. I’d just like to see the kind of freedom we had on Reddit in 2008 where the community is allowed to moderate itself outside of some obvious exceptions. We didn’t know how good we had it then. Peak days of online discussion.
I have genuinely started to dislike the internet as a whole in the last couple of years, where everyone is trying to be "familiar-friendly " and "corporate-friendly" like wtf? Even I've got enough shadow bans on me(especially on the ones by google) that I've almost got a strange gut reaction when using a swear word, to stop and consider if it's going to get me banned. But atleast I'd be able to say what I want. Even then, I'm just so much more happy that I can type out long-ass 10 page rants and it would not be considered a spam, just because of being long on reddit and eternity. Also, fuck lemmy world mods for censorship.
Maybe you don't, but I do...
Eh, I'm talking about speech that isn't the direct result of real harm being done. I think the distinction is pretty clear don't you?
No if it was then debates on what constitutes “speech” or “harm” wouldn’t occur.
People can AI generate convincing CP images. Should those be allowed? Who was actively harmed? What about animation?
I didn’t say who individually to kill I’m just saying people should go kill a certain group. Should that be allowed? Who was actively harmed? I can’t be held accountable for actions of randos who take my jokes and sarcastic comments literally!
I don't see why not, if nobody is being harmed in its creation. Just because something is disturbing doesn't mean it needs to be illegal.
Saying it doesn't harm anyone, it's the people doing it who cause harm, that seems pretty clear cut to me.
Well at least you’re honest about your twisted view. No debating you out of that weird position.
Yup, here's hoping. With a little luck, some would-be mass shooters will also hopefully reconsider their objectives after seeing how much love Luigi is getting and at least go out doing something positive for society instead of shooting innocent people. School shootings are so 1998 and real virgin behavior.
Yes, I 100% know why I was banned by a corporate website that abandoned the policy of free speech they were founded on years ago. I don’t care. I’m done playing nice and thinking and saying what I’m “supposed to.” Fuck these people and all who lick their boots.
My question is what is Lemmy about? Can I say I’m glad that CEO got shot and I hope it becomes a new positive trend in the world here? Cause that’s my honest take, and it’s been so refreshing to see that it’s the predominant take among friends, family, and coworkers in the real world as well. We think Luigi is just great.
Well, that's a real bummer. Not like I'm saying I want to do it personally. Bit too old for revolution. Haha. I am absolutely cheering it on from the sidelines though. Go Luigi #1!
I don’t agree that it’s “tough guy” shit at all because, again, nowhere am I saying I have the balls to do what this great man did. He’s the tough guy. I just have a righteous justice boner from his honorable actions and hope to see more of it. So I’m speaking out in favor of the actions of a true hero of the people. That is all.
Attention from the feds? What are they going to do about it? It’s not a crime to approve of the shooter’s actions. It’s not a crime to be happy somebody is dead. If they plan to investigate everybody who merely approves of this event, they sure have their work cut out for them… because it rightfully appears to be the majority of the population.
That’s right. I’m far from the only one. I’m not a general issuing orders to anybody but I am a huge fan!
I hear everything you’re saying and I was never at any point incredulous about the Reddit ban. You appear to not hear me: I don’t fucking care. My life would be better if I didn’t spend so much time wasting away on these platforms so if I’m to be banned from here too for having a very valid and popular opinion, “okey dokey” as Luigi would say.
Thank you, sir. Been a real pleasure.
On tiktok youre a real motherf🐈er lmao