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[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 66 points 5 months ago (6 children)

It's extremely disheartening that a country presumably devoid of religious brainworms does this to people. China, please look to Cuba for guidance on this.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 56 points 5 months ago

Cuba has made massive progress in regards to queer rights and i especially appreciate that they got the public on board with an education campaign that has made it one of the most queer-accepting places in the Caribean, but conversion practices are unfortunately still legal there, it's one of the key areas where they still have work to do (the other big ones are recognizing nonbinary identities and allowing gender recognition without bottom surgery).

The AES example here would be Vietnam, which outlawed such practices in 2022.

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Transphobia is mainly motivated by disgust. Religion, "science", tradition, etc... are just the excuses that bigots come up with to justify their abuse of us.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That disgust is not natural, though. Children without indoctrination just get it. All that hatred is learned from somewhere.

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s based on strictly enforced gender roles and the way women are sexualized. Anyone who goes against those sexist norms is giving them a feeling of "wrongness". Add the sexual stuff on top of that and the result is going to be disgust.

Could be wrong on that though.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

Also being confronted with the fact that your sexuality isn't so set in stone when you find out an attractive person is trans. Norms fucking people up and making them have a normal one.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The good news here at least is that it sounds like they're moving the right direction

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes and, unlike the US, they likely won't periodically roll everything back. It's just been agonizingly slow progress over there.

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's agonizingly slow because of that one time they tried to progress agonizingly fast on one great leap.

Changing culture through generational education (their textbooks are way ahead of their laws) is slow but it sticks. They learned that the hard way. The snap-back happens in the West as well but there's no learning happening.

And importantly for China it doesn't leave large demographics thinking that the government is trying to control them instead of serve them. The US would love an opening like that to drive wedges into Chinese society.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

I want to say that the British and their phobias did not help the situation in China. Lot of palacial eunuchs to be too opposed to the idea of more than two genders historically

[–] golli@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

Religion is certainly often the source of it, but isn't this ultimately an in- vs out-group dynamic? Which isn't exclusively a religious problem, but a phenomenon that sadly occurs in lots of different circumstances.