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what exactly do you expect a vanguard party structure to do? this isn't the Duma and the amerikkkan electorate is certainly much more ideologically fascist than early 20th century russian peasants and the thin strata of proletarians that existed at the time. the basic leninist position on electoralism is that it's a good opportunity for agitprop and trying to get as much power as you can under the existing structures. i didn't say they have "zero intention" of winning, i said they weren't deluded enough to think that it was a possibility and therefore it must be part of a different strategy. i'm not a psl member, but i don't think they're as politically unsavvy as the lib jill stein greens.
also arguably having zero intention of winning in favor of agitprop is the primary current function of the democratic party and it's arguably been very effective at helping sideline and limit critical voices against the status quo. it's certainly the basis under which they collect donations. you can say you don't agree with the strategy, that you think there's some other better way that a marxist-leninist vanguard might attempt agitprop from withing the us amerikkkan political structure that doesn't involve running political campaigns for public office, but that's different than writing off the strategy entirely without reason and implying that they're grifting donators. like what do you think a psl donator is thinking exactly? "if all of us do this then they can win?"
edit: for the record, i think jabril has been making good points in this thread that are critical of psl. i also am generally of the mindset that they'd probably be better off attempting to actually organize workers locally.
If the purpose of the campaign is essentially just an advertisement then they could literally just spend money on targeted ads. At least that would be honest.
The American electorate primarily does not vote. And if it is ideologically anything it is incoherent.
The money they waste on the campaign would be much better spent setting up chapters in rural areas so there is a real option to the hegemonic chudness. It's also way easier to win elections when the electorate size in any race is in the hundreds not hundreds of thousands.
The campaign was exactly the vehicle to do that. My branch is now poised to do serious organizing in multiple outlying rural communities, and every single one of the people in those areas who signed up cited the presidential campaign as how they found out and decided to get involved. The money wasn't just dumped into a garbage disposal labeled "campaign". The campaign was tied into all our organizing work in order to boost the profile and interest, and every single thing we see shows that it was successful at that.
I'm not saying it does nothing. I'm saying it's a waste because I think the party could achieve much more per dollar/hour of organizing by organizing for something more substantial than an outreach campaign and also avoid the stigma of being a 'third party'.
I'm glad it's growing regardless, I have my doubts about their retention but I won't prejudge that. Do you know if there is any long term plan to merge with the Peace and Freedom party or the SLP? Or what the party is planning on doing with the influx of new members?
Don't know what SLP is. For PF, I wouldn't know because that's entirely a California thing.
I just said in another comment so copy paste
Lots of group onboarding processes that can bring together a large group of prospects and involve them in educational and organization opportunities for a few months while we formally onboard in small batches. It winnows out folks who aren't very serious and giving the ones who are much firmer footing when they get brought in.