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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (29 children)

You can't berate people into voting the way you want. That is the lesson the DNC needs to learn if they actually want to win.

Social media trolls could do to realize that too.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah. Obviously not all of America voted, and many of Biden's voters didn't show up for Harris. But of those who did vote, Trump fucking won. Trump didn't get more votes this time, Democrats got less. Maybe they could learn a lesson about actually caring or even fucking pretending to care about people struggling to get by.

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 4 points 1 month ago (18 children)

'why oh why couldn't we be as humble as the trump voters!?'

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I think it's a little disingenuous to describe the mood as "berating people into voting the way you want".

The US, the leader of the free world, is now a fascist dictatorship.

I'm very frustrated, worried, and angry. When discussing it with people who did not take action to avoid this outcome, it's very difficult for that frustration not to leak out.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Harris made it a performative point to tell her anti-genocide constituency to go fuck themselves at every campaign stop because by god she was going to continue arming a genocide and you're gonna fucking like it, just like her friends from the GWB administration and Congress do.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They literally did that though. See the Obamas shitting on black people who dont immediately have the impulse to vote for kamala.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't see that myself but I'll take your word for it.

Personally I wouldn't know how else to react to a black person who wasn't planning to vote for Kamala.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Barrack accused men of being afraid to vote for a woman, which undermines their actual reasons for being undecided or non-voters. Its also insulting to think all black people should automatically vote for a black person.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did "Barrack accuse men" or did he address the hesitancy amongst some men?

I agree that it would be insulting to think Black people should vote for a Black person, but I would think a Black person not doing everything within their control to avoid a Trump presidency is reprehensible.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Well I'm sure its a matter of perspective, for example I'm sure Barack doesnt see himself as a war criminal.

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[–] fishy@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is correct, the right is already blinded by anger; telling them how stupid they are only makes them dig the hole deeper. If people want to change the way those people vote the only solution is redirecting their anger.

The entire dnc seems to be blind or dumb with their approach in the last 3 elections. It's all algorithmic, the Dems appeal to intellectuals but their message is too old school to get those uneducated voters who cling to a single issue to even listen. Get fucking angry, show some humanity, entertain, drive views, algorithm pushes your content, you brainwash the idiots instead of letting your opposition. Sure it's grimy, but it's better than spreading your cheeks and saying "they wouldn't because of decorum!"

Get fucking angry, show some humanity, entertain, drive views, algorithm pushes your content, you brainwash the idiots instead of letting your opposition.

i dont necessarily agree with this, it's going to make things worse, sure abuse the environment while you can, the kamala campaign literally did that, and it worked great. It just didn't provide turnout.

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