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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 39 points 4 days ago (5 children)

It's always some random Indian guy, "CEO and founder" of at least three "companies" that when you dig into them are basically hobbies, posting inane utterings like "I woke at 4am today and called my employee. He was still in bed so I fired him!"

They've probably never even had an employee.

I dunno what the fuck is going on in India. It's like they're running a cargo cult version of capitalism, hoping that typing mean nonsense like that will somehow make them rich further down the line.

As a Brit, it was probably our fault in the not too distant past.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Used to run a discord server. Does that make me an experienced CEO too?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

On LinkedIn that practically puts you on par with the CEO of Zoom.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

Let's be fair - I bet Shou didn't embarrass themselves with a return to office mandate the way Zoom did.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A friend who is Indian told me that they reckon it's linked to colonialism — now that I'm reflecting on it, I'm inclined to call it "post-colonialism" (a separate thing from neocolonialism, which exists alongside it). My friend described it as an especially toxic form of hustle culture. There's a lot of pressure to be the best — not the best that you can be, but the best. It leads to a lot of burnout.

Indian culture also values seniority/age quite highly, which means that compared to places like the US, it can be less socially acceptable to disagree with your boss. Apparently this has led to India having a lot more assholish middle manager type bosses. I can imagine in that world that being the CEO of something that's not real is basically just a fantasy of being out from the thumb of asshole managers. Plus if you feel very pressured to always be working and being Productive, then making your hobbies seem like businesses may serve to legitimise a hobby that you feel guilty to even have.

I think it's less of a "cargo cult" capitalism, because that term implies people going through the motions with no understanding of the underlying mechanisms. I think that the Indian CEO types you describe probably understand capitalism pretty damn well, because it sort of feels like a 'roided up version of capitalism, so to speak. It makes sense when I consider the population density of India, and the hustle culture competitiveness. It's probably useful to consider that profiles like this aren't necessarily aimed at us, and and are likely just operating under different social conventions. There's a lot of objectively silly stuff that I have to do as part of playing by societal expectations, so perhaps this is just something like that. It sounds like a rough experience though; Burnout due to the pressures of capitalism is definitely a worldwide phenomenon, but it sounds like Indian workers are having an especially rough time with it.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

This is explored pretty well in the novel White Tiger, which I highly recommend

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

India is especially notorious for their turbo-capitalism, but quite a few post-colonial countries have similar features in their society. The rich elite owns and controls the country, the working class struggles and the poor ones suffer. Government doesnt care to actually provide services for its citizens or better their lifes.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eh, maybe it was our fault a while back but these places have been independent long enough for their problems to be their own fault now. They only blame us as a distraction, pretty much like the pre-Brexit British govt used to blame the EU.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

yeah like, india has a fucking space program that actually does things, when you have a functional space program you don't really get to claim to be the little guy anymore.

[–] DeadNinja@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

As a Brit, it was probably our fault in the not too distant past.

Yep. You deserve that honor for almost every frigging nation in the Commonweath, lol.