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How would they spread anti-Israel hatred by recording security procedures, if the security procedures are above board? I really don't understand Israel's officials anymore. Surely they are aware how shit like this looks outside of Israel. Are they just high on their own hasbara supply?
Nope. They've gotten so used to the West automatically taking them at their word that their ability to even TRY to make their lies plausible has atrophied.
Yup! North Korea has nothing on these guys when it comes to state propaganda.
Israeli behavior makes a lot more sense when you realize that they're fascists. Israel has been fascist for at least 75 years, so them being divorced from reality is nothing unexpected.
Give Israel some credit, Ben Gurion wasn't a fascist, despite his problems - but also you could understand where he was coming from.
It's really from the 70s on when Israel moved from problematic and apatheidy into the full on genocidal regime we see today.
The watershed moment, not surprisingly, being the assassination of Rabin.
Huh? How is the Nakba anything other than the work of fascists? Remember that the only reason the death toll in the Nakba was "only" a little north of ten thousand people was because Israelis didn't have the weapons of mass destruction they have today and Palestinians weren't stuck in an open air concentration camp. Fundamentally what the IDF was doing in 1948 isn't much different from what it's doing today, and you should look up what they were doing to Palestinians within their borders until the six-day war.
The Nakba was a tragedy, and Ben has his role in that along with all the other high ups in the various paramilitary forces. The IDF didn't exist then, though it does trace its routes back to those paramilitary groups.
That Ben G worked to limit their power once the nation was formed is a mark against him being a fascist to me, and he didn't go as hard on violent struggle as the meaning of life as full fasc-fascism does.
Violent, racist, and did bad things yes (and genocidal to boot!). I don't think that auto-makes fascist.
As for what was being done pre-Six Day War I'm going to guess pogroms, murders, and forced sterilisation. So I'll go back up and add genocidal to it. Doesn't make him fascist though, unless we're making it a synonym for genocidist.
Fair enough. I'm still going to call the average Israeli a fascist from the start (something something settlements), but I guess their ruling class was too committed to the idea of a democratic Zionist state to allow a true fascist society to develop until Oslo and the lead up to the assassination of Rabin. The way I see it, the assassination of Rabin—rather than being a sign of a fundamental change—was things snapping back into place. The Israeli leadership had simply come to represent more accurately the people.
Aye, any Israeli who isn't actively opposing the settlements in the West Bank is unambiguously in the wrong. And I wish that wasn't a controversial statement.
You're right in that Rabin's assassination wasn't the change in itself (that such Israeli extremists had continued to exist shows that that violent current in Israel had continued and been bubbling away), but it makes a good mark of a turning point and the loss of really any chance for reconciliation in at least our lifetimes.
When "anyone I don't like" is "Hamas"