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SO qualified she lost the easiest election ever.
I think in theory it was an easy election but I don't think for her it was. There is a huge well of racism and sexism in america that makes anyone not white male to run for the highest office and harder for each deviation from it. Biden holding past any primaries does take away from promoting democracy.
But her and the dems dropped the ball hard. They shut down the working weird rhetoric. They worked towards the right, a competition they would never win. They failed to create an image of enough change and hope to climb the cliff of bigotry she started at the bottom of.
She was also part of the administration that gave continued, open, full-spectrum support for israel's genocide and sent riot cops to beat down the college kids protesting it. I suspect this also factored into her loss.
And not only was she a part of that administration, she did nothing to distance herself from it.
I’d give a lot more stock to “she was just VP she couldn’t do anything” if she had been campaigning on “Biden fucked us all over, and he’s doing genocide, and if you elect me I won’t be like him.” But instead her message was “I’ll be Biden again but slightly worse”
They said "How could she run against a cabinet she was part of" like this isn't the exact sort of thing poliicians are good at.
"While I am proud of the good that Joe and I were able to achieve while in office (list policies you support and that are popular), we don't see eye to eye on every issue, such as (unpopular policy)."
What's biden gonna do, fire her?
honestly if sitting VPs had to resign to run for president that would probably be beneficial for everybody
disagree. Sitting VP is the only position in the white house that cannot be removed at will of the President (by rule of law, so you know, drone strike excepted). That's a good thing, because it means they can and should speak out against unpopular policies and use their profile and position to be an additional check on the powers of the presidency. She could have eviscerated his support by declaring him unfit to rule, a war criminal, and promised to do better, and there's nothing (constitutionally speaking) that could have been done to retaliate against her. If votes came up in the Senate to progress his war criminal agenda she could have tie breaker voted against them, she could have used the prestige of her position to speak to the press constantly about an insider perspective of his cruelty and sun downing, but no, she was a a good little minion waiting her turn to drive the genocide machine. It's the ultimate cowardice. I hear libs say "what could she have done? she was underneath him...." and it's like, mother fucker she is the most job stable 'underling' in fucking history. Use that for literally anything other than gleeful compliance.
the way party politics has been since 2000 that would never happen, and it only happened a little bit with Gore because they wanted distance from the sex thing not policy.
In a hypothetical world, the administration could have pulled it off as a purely symbolic stunt to "force concessions" Joe Manchin style if Kamala's campaign had really wanted. Hypothetical because that would require the party to pander to the people and do that, instead of just the billionaire donors
Sure, I'm just saying even by lib logic she has no excuse.
Do you think people holding other political office like senators and governors should also have to resign?
eh, a senator or whatever has more leash to disagree with the administration.
We are not going back
She would have won if she wasn't pro genocide. The largest non-voting block did so due to genocide.
media continuously downplayed this until recent polls have come out showing most people who would have voted Dem but didn't did it over Palestine. They can't hide it anymore. They lost because they are rabid Zionists
Obama was the most popular president in decades because he was willing to lie and say "I will do good things". Harris was not willing to lie and say "I will do good things" because her donors would get mad.
Even if she was DaPerfectCandidate, the platform she ran on was the problem. They repeated over and over "we will keep doing the same thing we have been doing and we are proud of ourselves". People hated that. Biden won because he promised things people wanted, and then (unsurprisingly) didn't do. Now this person was saying "yeah we will keep on not doing the thing you voted us to do, oh btw a bit more racist and homophobic cuz that's what the republicans want"
No amount of "weird" rethoric would salvage that.
This situtation mirrors perfectly why Hillary lost. Obama promised cool things, didn't do them, people gave him a second chance, didn't do shit either, and now comes this lady not even promising cool things, people said "Fuck off, I'm not voting for you, maybe not voting at all"
Trump and Covid happened, massive shift in the whole world, now suddenly every fucking disgusting Dem slug was promising good things, people fell for it again because, hey everything is different now, maybe they are different too. But obviously wasn't the case.
They specifically demanded Walz tone down his combative rhetoric to avoid scaring away the nevertrumpers. The "weird" thing was absolutely stuffed by the campaign despite being one of the few bright spots of the campaign.
I forgot about Dick Cheney. Even republicans hated that guy! What the hell were they thinking!
*Liz Cheney
they brought liz onto the campaign but they were very proud of dick's endorsement
You don't win elections with that. You don't win elections being snarky either, you promise people good things, people vote for you.
Imagine how hard they'd win if they actually did those good things, too.
What are you? some kind of crazy populist? The adults in the room know better
All she had to do was promise to pull the US out of doing a genocide. Heck, she could have simply shown some pushback to Joe. But nope. She’s a zionist so…
She could have even rationalized it as the "lesser evil" to tell a campaign lie to get elected. Pragmatic. Adults in room stuff. Every electoralism lib would have defended that until they were blue in the face.
But that was too big of an ask. Incredible moment. 99% Hitler couldn't even lie about being 98% Hitler to beat 100% Hitler.
I voted for a woman of color who wasn't pro-genocide
all she had to do was lie about the slightest relaxation of the murder campaign against Palestine but she wasn't willing to piss off the zionists
They wouldn't even allow the most milquetoast of palestinians to speak at the convention -- Which would be the sort of coopt and coverup operation the dems used to be good at.