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The american voters have really outdone themselves this time

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[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These people have co-opted the work "skeptic".

I grew up Orthodox and became skeptical of god's role in my life, now I'm agnostic.

My parents became "skeptical" of vaccines. Once they found their first antivax substack they are no longer "skeptical" but rather certain vaccines cause autism and covid vax causes heart attacks.

I find it hilarious (sad) they stop being skeptical once they find "proof" of their suspicions and then claim to be skeptics.

They of course have seen all the research supporting vaccines and deemed it insubmissable because it was funded by big pharma or the WHO (CHINA).

The only science they believe is the shit pushed by their "independent" researchers (crunchy influencers).

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 15 hours ago

Don't worry, Republicans have been hard at work destroying our public education system so that people in the future won't be burdened with seeing and understanding their parents' hypocrisy for what it is.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (7 children)

When you're agnostic you're just a closet atheist. It's not that atheists are sure there is no god, we're not, nobody can say that for sure. We can (and do) say, however, that you don't have to worry about made up fairy tale rules, there likely isn't a god. Just be a nice person and you'll be fine.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

All of the agnostics I know openly identity as atheists, too.

[–] allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

This is not true at all. That is why agnostic and atheist are two separate words with two separate meanings. I agree with the be a nice person part though.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I'm agnostic. Definitely not a closet atheist. I actually talk about God with my closest and most catholic friend regularly

[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I used to call myself an atheist but switched to agnostic since I don't know for certain. My agnostic belief in a higher power is NOT the judgemental rule writing god of scripture. More of a default reason for enexplainable things in our universe. As science progresses there are less things where the higher power is needed.

But that's just me.

I always told my parents when they were disappointed in me for ditching the "Faith": I may be a bad Jew but I make every effort to be a good person.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think we can be for sure, religious skeptic is an equally ridiculous term. It's like saying I'm a teacup-around-Saturn skeptic. In any reasonable meaning of the word "certain", "truth", or "sure", the teacup and any deity do not exist nor play any role in our lives. They deserve no consideration except for niche discussions in philosophy and epistemology. We should use the teacup example even in that case, not the deity one.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Atheist moment

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

agnostic arnt aethiest thought.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

You can be both. A lot of atheists are also agnostics.