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The american voters have really outdone themselves this time

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (7 children)

When you're agnostic you're just a closet atheist. It's not that atheists are sure there is no god, we're not, nobody can say that for sure. We can (and do) say, however, that you don't have to worry about made up fairy tale rules, there likely isn't a god. Just be a nice person and you'll be fine.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

All of the agnostics I know openly identity as atheists, too.

[–] allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is not true at all. That is why agnostic and atheist are two separate words with two separate meanings. I agree with the be a nice person part though.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 55 minutes ago

In practice they're exactly the same. Atheists don't say anything differently than agnostics

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I'm agnostic. Definitely not a closet atheist. I actually talk about God with my closest and most catholic friend regularly

[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I used to call myself an atheist but switched to agnostic since I don't know for certain. My agnostic belief in a higher power is NOT the judgemental rule writing god of scripture. More of a default reason for enexplainable things in our universe. As science progresses there are less things where the higher power is needed.

But that's just me.

I always told my parents when they were disappointed in me for ditching the "Faith": I may be a bad Jew but I make every effort to be a good person.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think we can be for sure, religious skeptic is an equally ridiculous term. It's like saying I'm a teacup-around-Saturn skeptic. In any reasonable meaning of the word "certain", "truth", or "sure", the teacup and any deity do not exist nor play any role in our lives. They deserve no consideration except for niche discussions in philosophy and epistemology. We should use the teacup example even in that case, not the deity one.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Atheist moment

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

agnostic arnt aethiest thought.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

You can be both. A lot of atheists are also agnostics.