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It's difficult to keep up with the news around the tariffs; they get instated, then dropped, then reinstated... for example, on Friday, Trump said that certain electronics like smartphones would be exempt, causing markets to rally a great deal, but now the Commerce Secretary has said that they might not be exempt? The state of play right now, if you haven't been keeping up this week, is that the US recently announced a 90-day global pause on implementing the tariffs he had planned (that is, 25% on certain Canadian and Mexican goods, and at least 10% on every other nation) but nonetheless increased tariffs on China to 145%.

Meanwhile, China has been - quite remarkably - standing their ground, increasing tariffs on the US to 125%, and putting restrictions on rare earths. Xi Jinping has been in Vietnam and has made statements against a tariff war there, saying that it would have no winners. Meanwhile, a Chinese spokesperson has essentially said that China can endure the tariff war due to the increasing demand from its domestic market in combination with its growing economic ties with other countries.


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[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 43 points 2 days ago (8 children)

What’s the deal with 9/11?

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZqP8moItcc here's a BBC newscasts talking about how WTC7 aka the Solomon Brothers Building has collapsed, 20 minutes before it did, you can see the intact building behind her

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[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

KRAMER (busting in) You guys hear about Building 7?

costanza-maoist GEORGE Yes, Kramer! It’s the metaphorical tower of revisionism collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions!

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago

Thank you Karl

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Building 7 canonically just did that

[–] pocodemiel@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If this were the TA sub, I’d say look into the dancing israels and the balcony art project on the 91st floor of tower 1. Two different things.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What's the deal with balcony art project? I'd never heard of it before I found these pics https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinTowersInPhotos/comments/1he23xt/art_studio_at_the_91st_and_92nd_floors_of_wtc1/ but nothing jumps out as weird, is it related to the Israeli 'art student' breaching secure buildings?

At daybreak, we all watched in the throes of anticipation and fear as a one of the windows on the facade of WTC 1 opened and a small wooden balcony, something like a cantilever, was attached to it. One by one, wearing angel wings and brightly colored T-shirts, each of the four Gelitin boys made their way onto the balcony. So that we could recognize them from afar, each member wore a different color. I know that many in the press – Gelitin has been incredibly secretive about the project – believe that The B-Thing never happened, which is why I’m talking about it now. I was there and stood in awe at the sight of tiny human figures with wings standing, brie y, on a balcony attached to the facade of this gigantic skyscraper. The sight was so beautiful, fragile and heroic at once. They appeared, across the street, as tiny blips among the windows and reflections.

Oh right that does sound weird, strange there's no pics of the actual thing just the setup

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[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I've heard the dancing israelis thing was debunked, again, ive done no research, but does that still hold up in 25?

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://youtu.be/ezvIMPU1qHc?t=3
obviously ignore the beginning text. they were interviewed on israeli tv

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Lmfao I see why you couched it in ignore the beginning text

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[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

What do you mean by debunked? It's a fact that there were Israelis dancing across the river from the towers taking pictures, the worked for the Israeli government so were deported there, there cover was a moving company(Urban Moving Systems, a very intelligence sounding name if your familiar with that world), that had also recived a grant of $498,750 from the Federal Government Assistance Program . and there were traces of explosives found in their van, ~~even NATOpedia confirms this~~ whaaaat I STG there used to be wikipedia page for this, does anyone know how to check for deleted wiki pages for this? I tried archive but if the page wasn't literally named Dancing_Israelis it's no good

shit source especially with 'Israel did it in the title' https://wikiremoved.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it/Dancing_Israelis (edit: the removed word is a term for a ghost, also a CIA agent but also a slur for black people unfortunately, please dm me if anyone can't work out the url)but it has real US news sources about them at the time ABC and NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/21/us/nation-challenged-detainees-dozens-israeli-jews-are-being-kept-federal-detention.html paywalled if someone wants to get the archive version I'm in work atm but may update later

That page also has useful details from FOIA requests such as

Of the 76 pictures that were found on the cameras, the FBI has chosen to release only 14 heavily redacted versions

So I'd give the page a read if you want to go deeper than the mainstream source I've posted in this and my other comment, but be critical of the website as a whole for sure, but a lot is we'll citationed with more legitimate source

Apparently on Israeli TV 2 of those arrested said that they did not accept responsibility for the event, but made the enigmatic claim that they were in New York that morning "to document the event",

My personal thoughts are that 9/11 wasn't a mossad operation, but that they may have had some foreknowledge, not of the 'every Jewish person working in the towers got an email not to go to work that day' bullshit, but of the same kind of knowledge the CIA(that even the US acknowledges that if there had been better communication between agency it could have been stopped, personally I think it more sinister than stupid even if hanlon's razors says the opposite), and iirc German intelligence(who tried to warn the us) that Al-Qaeda was planning something big around that date involving airplanes(I mean even alex-supplements predicted that one a few months beforehand) So the 'dancing Isralies' imo were probably just a general Mossad team(you should look into the Israeli art students attempting to breach secure facilities in year or so before https://www.theguardian.com/education/2002/mar/06/internationaleducationnews.highereducation) perhaps supplied with some sort of briefing 'be on the lookout for any terror attack' or maybe had no idea, but could work out that the very large and noticeable terror attack that just happnened would be used as a casus belli to kill millions of muslims, so their dancing was not for 'yay our evil paln just went off without a hitch' rather 'fuck yes the US is going to bomb so many of out 'human animal' enemies'

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ultimately this leads back to my original understanding of 9/11 being “they (government and Mossad) knew it was going to happen and weaponized it against whoever they wanted.” Which is much easier to process than all the building 7/controlled demo/false flag stuff

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Haha it's funny that clashes with my own view which is the attack on the towers were planned and executed by Al-Qaeda, and that it was known about by the Cheney cabal and various intel agency and allowed to happen for there 'new pearl harbour' needed as casus bellis for the wars, like you said.

But I also believe that WTC7 was 'controlled demolition'(maybe not in the traditional sense) , with the CIA office contained there, all the documents burned up including records that would be able to trace billion/trillions in embezzled money

and proof like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZqP8moItcc this BBC newscasts talking about how WTC7 aka the Solomon Brothers Building has collapsed, 20 minutes before it did, you can see the intact building behind her

There are other videos out there of similar incongruity's

And the fact that no skyscraper(which people forget wtc7 was, it just looked small in comparison to 1&2, it would be the tallest building in many countries) before or since as collapsed due to just fire and not being hit by a plane which it wasn't, but yeah idk enough about the physics to know if the speed of collapse etc proves it, basically vibes based analysis lol

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Hey sometimes vibes based is all we got. I'll finish the video; it sure seems like they're saying "collapsed" a lot. Weird. Didn't know there was a cia office in 7 also.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

just one more source posting it to have in my history more than anything: this awesomely old-school website has a download of a ABC live interview with Giuliani where he says

“I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

again before the actual collapse, although I suppose it could be argued a veteran fire fighter could tell when a structure is fire damaged enough to collapse(even if this was an unprecedented even i.e a skyscraper)

https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc_giuliani.html

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah there's lots of circumstantial evidence floating around, like the well timed shorting of the airline industry which by themselves can be written off as coincidence but taking the totality sure makes it seem that there a lot more went on behind scenes than the 'official story'

I'll guess we'll never know for sure, unless there's a worldwide communist revolution and the only way Cheney can get his next heart transplant is too give up the goods on the whole shebang lol

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[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah found a good source that would pass a lib sniff test https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885

Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?

June 20, 2002, 5:42 PM

June 21 -- Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center attacks, and those who saw them won't forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence.

Maria, who asked us not to use her last name, had a view of the World Trade Center from her New Jersey apartment building. She remembers a neighbor calling her shortly after the first plane hit the towers.

She grabbed her binoculars and watched the destruction unfolding in lower Manhattan. But as she watched the disaster, something else caught her eye.

Maria says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. "They seemed to be taking a movie," Maria said.

The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.

She found the behavior so suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police. Before long, the FBI was also on the scene, and a statewide bulletin was issued on the van.

The plate number was traced to a van owned by a company called Urban Moving. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was spotted on a service road off Route 3, near New Jersey's Giants Stadium. A police officer pulled the van over, finding five men, between 22 and 27 years old, in the vehicle. The men were taken out of the van at gunpoint and handcuffed by police.

The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was found in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when the five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens.

‘We Are Not Your Problem’

According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." The other passengers were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

The Palestinians are the problem

Jesus they don’t shut up do they

[–] pocodemiel@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good question. I never heard it was debunked. It’s been years since I looked into it.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

I may have misread some dipshit in Reddit. Best to do my own reading

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Add this one in for the gumshoes.

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

The one day that something happened

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Jesus I should have phrased this in a serious way because yall love to riff