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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The internet loves ridiculing women who slip up, or like Jennifer Lawrence in this case, are maliciously taken out of context for the purpose of ridiculing women

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"I remember when I was doing 'Hunger Games,' nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie because it wouldn’t work — because we were told girls and boys can both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead."

I'm curious how you're gonna spin that as being taken out of context.

[–] recall519@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair, I don't think she meant it literally. I could definitely see how in a conversation she meant little to none which is true.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OK, but how does what you think matter to what she said? You're not her.

[–] recall519@lemm.ee -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, to your point, everyone's opinion in this post doesn't matter.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That wasn't my point at all, you just failed to understand a very simply written sentence.

[–] recall519@lemm.ee -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which sentence? A written quote from a verbal conversation without any context? Or your sentence where you said it does not matter what my opinion because I'm not her?

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Neither, and the fact you can’t figure that out tells me that arguing with you is pointless because I’ll spend more time explaining everything I write to the two brain cells knocking about inside that otherwise empty head of yours than anything else.

Besides, you don’t strike me as the sort of person who can think critically about their own viewpoints. You know you’re right, and nothing anyone says is gonna change that. You have more in common with Trump than you’re probably willing to admit.

[–] recall519@lemm.ee 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where did the Trump reference come from?

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago

ffs, you’re hopeless.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

she's talking about an attitude studios had at the time. you have no evidence that this exact conversation didn't happen. fuck, you can see right wing babies cry and throw a fit right now whenever they see a woman in the lead of any movie let alone action.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That’s a pretty piss-poor attempt at an argument. She specifically states nobody had ever cast a woman as an action lead. And as for not having evidence, that fact that she didn’t deny it, and issues an apology tends to imply she fucking said it.

After #MeToo, liberals have over corrected so much that as soon as a woman says anything, you take it as fact. And if that woman is wrong, you twist her words like some MAGA chud with Trump to try and make her right all along. It’s absolutely ridiculous. You know it’s ok to admit that sometimes a woman somewhere will say some stupid shit, right?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  1. you completely misread the part about evidence.

  2. you didn't have to go full MRA but ok that's a choice I guess

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, the good old "if you don't agree with every woman, you're sexist" argument. It's right up there with the "if you criticize Israel you hate Jews" on my list of viewpoints to respect.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

dude in the span two comments you somehow linked believing a woman paraphrasing a conversation to defending genocide so I don't think you're in a position to talk about arguments

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, I linked calling someone sexist to calling someone antisemitic. If you’re gonna twist words, at least be clever about it, or find someone who is.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

you're either pretending you don't know the context of the analogy you're using or you have no idea; I don't know which is worse but you're certainly not making a case for being clever

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think some of it is because we love our action women! Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton were fucking AWESOME action stars that were unique, smart and complex; and not just "woman who acts like a douche male" type that most modern poorly written female action stars are.

And IMO they were way better actresses and better written than whatever hunger games was.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 6 days ago

Fun fact, the character of Ripley was written for a man, and only once the script was complete did they randomly decide to cast a woman for the part and see what happened.

And yes I completely agree with you. Implications about how Hollywood does things are left as an exercise for the reader.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Doesn't the internet ridicule everyone who slips up though?

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago

The Internet also takes every opportunity to elevate women, warranted or not. I suppose it balances out.

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

True. There’s certain asymmetry in how internet likes to shit on women. You would have to be blind to not notice

It is some kind of sport in every single community regardless of political spectrum. The difference is amount of slurs

I always get the death threats quite immediately when I mention being a land lady. There is asymmetric escalation

[–] Leg@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

I've been downvoted for my feminist opinions being unforgiving towards men. I hate you for your job title, not your gender.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

The death threats aren't because you're a woman, the death threats are because you're a parasite and don't provide anything to society by hogging up housing and keeping it from being affordable. No land lord/lady has ever provided a useful contribution to their community.