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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 79 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Aliens has her beat by a few decades.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Yeah, and Aliens is actually GOOD.

[–] rpl6475@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Came here to say this. Why do people forget about Ellen Ripley?!?

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 7 points 5 days ago

It's strange, because Ripley is like the #1 "I don't hate women in movies, just bad writing" excuse

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 138 points 6 days ago (8 children)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 82 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She was widely ridiculed for the quote with Alien as a notable example.

I think the rest of the quote was pretty accurate. She was speaking to gender bias in Hollywood and saying she was happy to be an exception, which I think was fine. But because she said something boneheadedly wrong to tee up the point, that's all anyone really remembers about it.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You can be wrong but still hold a valid point broadly.

If you say "franchises" instead of movies and limit it to movies where the woman is the STAR and not part of a duo (Terminator and Terminator 2) and goes for 3 or more movies the only other example I can think of off the top of my head is Alien.

Theres a lot of female starred standalone movies, and a decent number of duos, sometimes with sequels. But once you start looking beyond that it gets REALLY skinny really fast.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Resident Evil has entered the chat...

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We try to forget those movies exist at all.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can't deny the first one was great.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 47 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Alien came out 12 years before terminator 2.

Yes, I was just giving another extremely well known example that predates Hunger Games by a few decades

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[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Id even say that arguably that doesnt count.

She was a lead role, but Michael Beihn and Arnie got top billing in the Terminator and Terminator 2 movies. Edward Furlong and Linda Hamilton had "starring" roles but they werent the lead.

Sure, but Sarah was really the protagonist. Regardless, Alien came much earlier

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[–] Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Dude, there are at least:

  • Alien
  • Doomsday
  • Planet Terror
  • Aeon Flux (edit: not Aron Flux)
  • Catwoman
  • all Charlie's Angels movies
  • and literally all Mills Jovovich movies

They are not all that well known, but the claim is still complete nonsense.

Edit:

  • Ultraviolet
  • Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
  • Sucker Punch
  • Salt
  • Pans Labyrinth
  • Lara Croft
  • Kill Bill !!! (How the f did I forget Kill Bill?)
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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely does. But they wanted to introduce us to one of their favorites. Which if I must say absolutely is an underrated awesome movie. Gina Davis is great in almost everything she's ever been in. They didn't imply it was the first.

As you said aliens definitely predates it and also counts. But the statements that it was the first big female led action movie was just so ridiculous because there are so many good ones that are easy to point out. Just how that blue origin launch with the all female crew was somehow this big step for females in space. Completely ignoring and down playing all the female astronauts throughout NASA's history.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 12 points 6 days ago

Fun fact about that: I think it was Mike Mullane who was on one of the first missions with a female astronaut. He found her, obviously, to be beyond qualified, and was just as furious as all the other astronauts of any gender at the dumb type of "how will you do your makeup in space" type of questions she would get from the press.

Anyway, partway through the mission her hair got caught by some kind of machinery, sucked in and tangled up in it, and it was a little bit of a pain in the ass to get things sorted out. She hunted down every single member of the crew and made them swear an oath under threat of terrible violence not to say a goddamned word about it, because it was intolerable that there be some actual negative issue with some reality that was connected with her gender in any way, that anyone could point to as a reason why male astronauts were better.

Then he put it in his book. Of course. Hopefully enough time had gone by at that point that we understood that astronauts can be qualified even if they have hoo-has. Or, well, we did until Jeff Bezos got involved.

[–] ghostface@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Pam Grier would like a word

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Alien isn't an action movie. It's a horror. Aliens, however, is absolutely an action movie.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Dunno if that counts as an action movie, but she is wrong because there were a number of action movies with one or more women as leads in the 70s and 80s. They were B movies, but still movies!

[–] GOTFrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How quickly we forget Foxy Brown.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Shows the age demographic

[–] tatann@lemm.ee 19 points 6 days ago

What about Underworld ?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Zorro’s Black Whip beats Hunger Games by 68 years. And we live in a universe where the Tomb Raider and Alien films exist, as well as Elektra, Foxy Brown, and yes even Catwoman.

Don’t trust actors, especially when they are selling something.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

they will say anything, it's literally their job on the promotion circuit

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 days ago
[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

La Femme Nikita (original French), Alien, and Terminator 2 all had seriously kick-ass female leads.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 19 points 6 days ago

I wasn't allowed to watch "violent" movies as a kid, so I missed a lot of action classics like RoboCop, Rambo, etc. But there were a few exceptions we had on tape so they got watched a lot. Long Kiss Goodnight, T2, Alien,... I rewatched this one again a couple of years ago and was shocked at how violent it actually is. It finally clicked that my single Mum was making an exception for iconic kick-arse women.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago (7 children)

The internet loves ridiculing women who slip up, or like Jennifer Lawrence in this case, are maliciously taken out of context for the purpose of ridiculing women

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago (15 children)

"I remember when I was doing 'Hunger Games,' nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie because it wouldn’t work β€” because we were told girls and boys can both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead."

I'm curious how you're gonna spin that as being taken out of context.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think some of it is because we love our action women! Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton were fucking AWESOME action stars that were unique, smart and complex; and not just "woman who acts like a douche male" type that most modern poorly written female action stars are.

And IMO they were way better actresses and better written than whatever hunger games was.

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[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Doesn't the internet ridicule everyone who slips up though?

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IIRC she was specifically talking about the young adult genre.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 15 points 6 days ago

Kill Bill? or its inspiration, Lady Snowblood?

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

There are like...so many exceptions that she's just wrong. But Long Kiss Goodnight does rule and it's worth noting

[–] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fuck guys, I forgot about this. I'm going to write a strongly worded tweet to Jennifer because I bet she forgot she was wrong too!

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[–] recall519@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

This feels more like she was obviously exaggerating for dramatic effect versus outright lying. In a conversation, I think most would understand that she meant not very much and she was talking about the young adult genre in general.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Other female led action movies that came out in 2012 include- Brave, Underworld: Awakening, Resident Evil: Retribution, Silent Hill: Revelations... but I feel like I'm belaboring the point that many others have made by now.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Aeon Flux?

EDIT: Ah someone beat me to it.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago

scroll down for good movies

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