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This is more of a Fuck the Cops problem than with cars though. Cars are at least useful.
Cars are useful in rural areas, absolutely, but cities should primary be built as walkable communities connected by trams, trains, buses and bike paths.
Car dependency is completely unsustainable in the same way that flying your car off a cliff is a flight that cannot be sustained.
A lot of smaller towns have a downtown area that could also pretty easily be served by public transit.
In fact, that's how a lot of the towns became towns, they were adjacent to the rail lines.
That's nonsense, cars will always be useful in both rural areas and cities. Goods and services must be delivered to their destinations at a scale and granularity that trains and bikes simply can't attain. Your whole anti-car movement amounts to tilting at windmills.
I mean, the idea is that we also change our logistics and infrastructure. We've done that before, and trains did come before cars. Personally I don't think we'll get rid of cars entirely, but we can certainly reduce the amount we use if we make some sensible changes.
The vast majority of cars on the road are not delivery vehicles, bringing them up is irrelevant. The point is not "literally zero motorized road vehicles should enter city limits"
OK so no ambulances or fire trucks then?
What do you propose to do when an apartment complex catches fire? Bucket brigade to put out the fire and handheld stretchers for the burn victims?
Also delivery vehicles are always relevant. They are everywhere, delivering the goods to the last mile of their destination. They will always be needed until something like Star Trek replicators can materialize goods directly into the home.
You're reading what I said as literally the complete opposite to what I said. What I was saying was that the anti-car movement is generally fine with things like delivery vehicles (and emergency vehicles for that matter), because those things are a small percentage of the vehicles on the road. Hence "the point is not literally zero motorized road vehicles".
The point is to make car use unnecessary for the average person, and create and promote safe and comfortable alternatives to driving. Saying "You should not have to drive to reach your place of employment, or the grocery store" is not even close to "get rid of fire trucks and ambulances". Declaring them the same is little more than making a strawman.