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[–] TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 60 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

If anything, it makes me wonder why we don't have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren't phones or pseudocomputers and don't cost a bomb.

Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Because we already have phones.

The solution is to release games for phones that require a controller, but most companies aren't willing to be the first ones to do it.

[–] Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm probably part of the problem. I've never used a controller except a few times at friends' houses. I grew up with Nintendo DS, Wii, PC, and smartphone games. I don't want to ever have to pick up a controller.

[–] pory@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

With a phone, there's a type of controller that wraps around the phone, turning it into a Switch form factor. That's probably the middle ground between atrocious touchscreen d-pads (or only playing games that actually work well with touch controls) versus lugging around a Dualsense and some mount contraption or kickstanding your phone on a surface.

[–] Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've never had trouble with or resented touch screen D-pads ^^; again I am part of the problem I suppose, because it seems by your post that most people hate the things I'm genuinely satisfied with. I hope the general controller-liking population gets things to serve their needs too, though. Thanks for providing the information for what I'm assuming is the majority.

[–] 7arakun@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.

A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, I'm taking a look at the RP5 it looks quite good. I wish its GameCube Performance was better but this might be the one for me :D

If it can also play Steam games/x86 games, that would also be cracked

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Something that can play PS2/GameCube games effortlessly

Maybe even a bit of PS3!

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

https://www.goretroid.com/products/retroid-pocket-4-handheld

Can play gamecube/wii games and most ps2. Ps3 you're gonna have problems with even with a steamdeck sometimes.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Or just use a phone that's a couple years old

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I got an S23 for $400, upgraded from a 7 year old S9

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd say go on swappa and pick up an S21 for 125 and be ready to go....leave the S23 for doom scrollin.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Why downgrade?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

There are plenty handhelds in all shapes and sizes in that price range for exactly this. How many more do we need?

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly "race to sleep" in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it'll consume overall

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Especially as the phone gets older and apps get more complex.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Why do people spend that much money?!

Conditioning. They have more money so they spend it proportionally.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.

It's definitely powerful enough but I'm slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn't work in chrome or Google photos)

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, it's probably not something I would have chosen if I had the option but I don't really care about the curved screen.

[–] aegis_sum@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I know but I don't want to use my phone as a gaming device. The retroid pocket 5 could be the one for me

[–] orenj 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are real video games for phones now, and I'm pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 8 points 3 weeks ago

I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I keep my phones for 6-8 years. I’m in my 40s and have only ever bought 3 phones, going back to the iPhone 2 3g

[–] degen@midwest.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Just say you've never cracked a screen, everyone and their brother will be wet

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] degen@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

I should watch Archer again

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would be too. You know they’re repairable right?

[–] degen@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

I did assume a thing or two I guess lol. I got a refurb when it was cheaper than a fix. Wonder if that counts as a "new" phone... Theseus would probably like to have a word.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Apps by corporations are stuffed with ads, telemetry and other crap. It uses frameworks on top of other frameworks and import libraries for the dumbest shit. For example the reddit app is about 120mb while my lemmy voyager app is 8mb...

The twitch.tv app is 150mb while an open source twitch app is 25mb. It has even more functionality and options and runs like butter.

Most of the shit phones have to run and process is in the background to track and sell.

Its really bad and why i encourage people to use open source versions of stuff they use.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Who doesn't want to spend £50+ a month to doom scroll...

Yeah, I pay like $15/month to doom scroll.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

people that just buy the phone instead of getting a weird contract thingy.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Genshin Impact does make my phone toasty.