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A video that captured the brutal arrest of a Black college student pulled from his car and beaten by officers in Florida has led to an investigation and calls for motorists to consider protecting themselves by placing a camera inside their vehicles.

The footage shows that William McNeil Jr., 22, was sitting in the driver’s seat, asking to speak to the Jacksonville deputies’ supervisor, when authorities broke his window, punched him in the face, pulled him from the vehicle, punched him again and threw him to the ground.

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[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's really trippy to reflect back on my pre-ACAB days. I recognised that the ways things currently work is far from just, but I was still in the "surely not all cops" mode of thinking; even if I understood how much of this injustice is a systemic problem. Whilst it was several years ago now, it still feels recent enough that I am baffled at how misguided I was to hold the beliefs I did and still consider myself anti-ACAB

I remember vividly that one day, it occurred to me that if ACAB seemed excessive and unreasonable a to me, that perhaps I was operating on incorrect assumptions about what ACAB actually meant (because me being wrong surely is more likely than everyone who says ACAB either being deeply misguided, or inflammatory edgelords). This led to me googling "why ACAB is right" and finding a lot of things that made sense to me.

I don't know where I'm going with this. I think perhaps my overall point is roughly that I think it's good to label these things with ACAB, where appropriate, because whilst the acronym itself doesn't have much explanatory power, it is useful as a distillation of a bunch of beliefs about the justice system that are actually somewhat commonly held. It makes me think of the saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". Years ago, I was a silly horse who complained of thirst while standing next to water; sometimes it's useful to say "dude, you're literally standing in water".

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, especially if you personally know a cop, they can be decent people on their own. But every day they renew their commitment to enforce laws, some of which they will acknowledge are unjust, even if they aren’t otherwise corrupt or interested in brutalizing people, and they will let all but (maybe) the worst abuses go unreported to not get fired or held back from promotions.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

And if they show their decency and use their position of power to unequally enforce the law in the pursuit of genuine justice, this is them being a bad cop, in that a cop's individual sense of justice is not meant to sway them. To ignore or undermine unjust laws also undermines their own role as a cop — one might even say it makes them less of a cop.

Even without corruption or the use of excessive force, policing as an institution is inherently fucked up. When laws are unjust, an impartial enforcer of them is also unjust. Some go into the job with the admirable goal of trying to be a force for good, but their efforts will only strengthen a broken institution that will gradually leech the goodness from them.