this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2025
119 points (83.2% liked)
Pragmatic Leftist Theory
487 readers
3 users here now
The neolibs are too far right. The tankies are doing whatever that is. Where's the space for the people who want fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-communism, but realize that it's gonna take a while and there are lots of steps between now and then? Here. This is that space.
Here, people should endeavor to discuss and devise practical, actionable leftist action. Vote lesser evil while you build grassroots coalitions. Unionize your workplace. Participate in SRAs. Build cohesion your local community. Educate the proletariat.
This is a place for practical people to develop practical plans to implement stable, incremental improvement.
If you're dead-set on drumming up all 18,453 True Leftists® into spontaneous Revolution, go somewhere else. The grown ups are talking.
Rules:
-1. Don't be a dick. Racism, sexism, other assorted bigotries, you know the drill. At least try to default to mutually respectful discussion. We're all on the same side here, unless you aren't, in which case kindly leave.
-2. Don't be a tankie. Yes I'm sure you have an extensive knowledge of century-old theory. There's been a century of history since then. Things didn't shake out as expected, maybe consider the possibility that a different angle of attack might be more effective in light of new data.
-3. Be practical. No one on the left benefits from counterproductive actions. This is a space informed by, not enslaved to, ideology. Promoting actions that are fundamentally untenable in the system in question, because they fulfill a sense of ideological purity, is a bad look. Don't do that.
founded 5 months ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
God bless single issue voters.
Stepping back to an objective human suffering standpoint, the Trump admin is dismantling environmental protections that would soften the coming climate-collapse holocaust. We've whiplashed back 80+ years and lost decades of institutional knowledge; even physical infrastructure in NASA's case.
This is an issue that objectively has only progressed through D efforts and been defended even through R administrations. Millions of people will needlessly die, particularly those oppressed in the global south, from the actions of this admin. But Genocide Joe was an unpalatable humanitarian choice?
There's no rationality to their stance, they just base their politics on visceral emotional reactions. It's the exact same blind moral purity as pro-birthers and they deserve the same derision.
Ah yes the genocide in gaza is an "issue". A slight inconvenience really
Voting for a genocider was the right choice. War is peace. What is gaslighting? Don't ask me I'm a dumbocrat
"Neither was good, so I refuse to participate and willfully allow the worst to happen. Now I get to feel morally superior to those who took action against the worst because the alternative was flawed." Fuck all the way off you absolute asshat. What was and is happening in Gaza is a fucking atrocity. And your lack of vote not only didn't fix a goddamned thing, if anything, it only made it worse and also allowed a myriad of other atrocities happening now and more soon to come. You are a joke and a moron.
Right on cue. And yes it's a political issue, it pretty snugly fits the common definition.
Trying to pretend it's something sacrosanct and beyond politics is what makes a single issue voter.
That's you.
If you actually cared about the lives of people in the middle east you should be just as outraged over Trump unilaterally bombing a sovereign state, direct military action that wouldn't have happened with the Democratic candidates.
Or, as I pointed out, the deliberate climate destruction that will literally boil more people alive with wet bulb events.
Damn why so mad, my candidate didn't bomb those people when given the exact same chance. Or are we back to campaigning against hypotheticals instead of reality?
Okie dokie, still didn't bomb Iran
Ok, here I am demanding it. Now what? Continue to be lambasted by the left for also making the only sane decision in a two box election? How am I going to demand anything now when ICE/National Guard are enforcing curfews to suppress any political gatherings? Come on, tell me what magic wand to wave. You've clearly got the answers
Ok so you've got nothing to add so your opinion is worthless ✅
Who said it was my party? I'm casting one vote that needed to be cast. If you don't like my strategy but have no viable alternative then keep your mouth shut
You can't be a pedant and also be bad at it. You just sound like an idiot.
Oh wait, you think somehow that allowing the Trump regime to take power was the optimal play. Let me correct myself. You are an idiot.
Damn, in my hypothetical fantasy land Harris solved the crisis and fostered a perfect two state solution. I guess we'll never know how it would play out now because we elected a fascist. "Couldn't be worse" right?
It's almost like the "deal" we're weighing is way fucking bigger than one issue. I'm sure next election will have a plethora of progressive candidates and some nice friendly brown-shirt poll watchers cheering us on (we sure taught the dems a lesson right 😎 (don't worry Gaza, help is on the way, just a slight detour through CECOT))
So is being rounded up in unmarked vans for even speaking out about the genocide that your president is still enabling. Protesting the blue candidate didn't just not change anything, it actively made everything worse
Is that too complex of a thought for you?
Ok so no solution then, you just want everyone to suffer. Ladies and gentlemen, look at the sheer genius of accelerationism. Completely indistinguishable from the red pilled angst of the modern right.
Literally no political stance, no goals, nothing constructive at all. Congrats, that's quite a platform.