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Are these Russian and Chinese agents who want to divide "us" (who do you mean with "us"?) In the room with us right now?
I guess I can ignore about 150 years of history then, huh? Liberalism is a right-wing ideology, homie.
Liberalism
The pursuit of personal freedom is right-wing? I didn't know that. I still don't know that!
Does the left-wing oppose personal freedom as a top priority?
I don't know what source that is and I don't want to open that link again.
Liberalism also has the guarantee of private property as another "most important goal", which is why the ideology is so in favour of capitalism.
Also, liberals mostly focus on negative freedom, i.e. freedom from inhibitions, while e.g. leftists focus on freedom to do something.
So, yeah. Focusing on the freedom to squeeze your tenants for rent, destroy the environment, exploit your fellow humans, etc. is right wing.
If you really want to understand the "left-right" political framework, I can't recommends the channel "what is politics" on youtube enough. This video should be a short intro to the topic, while this one goes into more detail.
No, you don't get to decide which personal freedoms count & which don't in what they stand for: they stand for personal freedoms.
Liberalism is broad, and the linked site on party classifications shows it's neither left nor right wing, though more specific subclassifications can be placed somewhere. Broadly
You're neglecting subclassification
which is leftist. Leftism is the pursuit of equality/egalitarianism.
Let's not pretend conservative liberalism or neoliberalism is the only liberalism.
I don't decide. I analyse. Liberals focus on negative freedoms. That is political reality.
OP meant liberal parties in the political context of the so-called "USA". In that context, liberalism is right wing.
How. Your quote conicides with my argument. Liberalism is in favour of capitalism.
No. Watch the videos. Leftism is in favour of dismantling existing hierarchichal power structures in favour of equality. A "social market economy" is still capitalist.
They have vital things in common. And I (and OOP) oppose pretty much the complete intersection.
Back to topic: Liberals in the US definetly opposed the abolition of ICE. Probably because of the whole "rule of law" bu&iness in liberalism and because they think that ICE protects the interests of capital.
Scarily enough, Eastern European bot farms with strong ties to Russia have been all over the internet for ages.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
Also, Microsoft releases reports on foreign influence ahead of US elections:
https://msblogs.thesourcemediaassets.com/sites/5/2023/11/MTAC-Report-2024-Election-Threat-Assessment-11082023-2-1.pdf
https://msblogs.thesourcemediaassets.com/sites/5/2024/04/MTAC-Report-Elections-Report-Nation-states-engage-in-US-focused-influence-operations-ahead-of-US-presidential-election-04172024.pdf
These influences now have moved overseas to the UK and Australia.
It's pretty universally accepted by anyone who cares enough to look that there are Eastern European (Russian) bot farms manipulating social media to divide and weaken Western countries.
yeah, it's how we got brexit and trump
And... the explicit anarchist is a russian troll now? O.o
I don't follow.
I was simply replying to the statement:
With some facts about that sort of thing happening, since many people seem to be unaware and take a similar tone implying it's crazy.
Just because something exists, doesn't mean it's valid to accuse someone of being that thing whenever they say something you don't like.
Nazis exist, too. That doesn't mean it's valid to accuse Anark of being a nazi.
Funny how they also sell the “solutions” to this scary “problem”.